GOAT Debate Settled

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#1
SamNuho
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Lets use NFL, what these Americass supporters are familiar with.

  1. Tom Brady is the GOAT with 7 SBs in 2 different franchises.

  2. Brady is not even top 5 in QB skill such as arm talent, running after pocket collapses etc... because players like Lamar, Patrick Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers etc do things Tom can never do with his arms or legs.

The GOAT is not always the best player but the player with a lot of accolades in terms of relativity.

1 to 1 Brady cannot match Lamar for athleticism or throwing power but he wins games by watching tape and doing less mistakes.

Same way Chronicle is not the same flashy aimer as Aspas but he finds ways to be clutch and hold it down to win trophies.

#2
foythvlr
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Do you guys ever get tired

#4
SamNuho
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Logical argument is an allergy to Bronzil

#10
foythvlr
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No i think both are the goats

#27
KClaw
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i had the same thought

#3
AdAstraPerAspera
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crazy analogy

#5
Nihaofineshyt
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Totally agreed
If fnatic win champs then the debate is over

#24
iNacht
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So does that mean aspas is the goat rn just because he has a champs? Just accept that chron and aspas are both insane, chron might have more trophies, but aspas can instantly make a team top tier. Doesn’t that count for something? Both are insane. We’ll never reach an agreement.

#6
Addammo
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Can't we all just get along, accept Urango as the goat and move on

#26
xv108
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W

#7
gordonramsay
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if chronicle is brady, aspas is rodgers

#8
SamNuho
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Well congrats, Chroncile is the GOAT while Aspas is the best player. Simple.

Chron has two trophies with two different orgs like Brady

Aspas has 1 Trophy like Rodgers with multiple MVPs.

#11
gordonramsay
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kinda how I see it, aspas will go down as arguably the most talented player ever but I dont think he has the accolades at the moment ( it can change) to be the goat.

#18
Congo1
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he called bro Ben Arfa XDD

#20
serot
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winning 2 times in the same year doesn't really count for the winning longevity argument
he had the exact same team for all of 23 wins
he joined a fnatic core that made a very respectable top 5-6 last year without him and additionally added LEO of all players

I don't even think you can argue that chronicle even has the required trophy count to back his goat claim atp. If you think about it he only has 2 winning years, one in the early dino era farming washed CS talent and another on a team with superstars

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dimmed
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nAts

#12
Froxet
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no thanks

#13
brams6663
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TenZ

#14
backslider
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Tom Brady was 100% the best at reading the field and understanding his role as QB in the systems he was in, he’s the goat because he has 7 rings AND individually he’s the best quarterback of all time

That’s because his read on the game and on the defense was better than any qb

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KGad03
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This is how you know someone doesn't know ball. Brady played during the field general QB days. Where IQ mattered the most because the insane defensive players and the league was completely defensively favored. His IQ was the best in the NFL for 2 decades. And also Brady had a hell of an arm. He could fucking launch that shit, fit the ball into collapsing windows consistently, and made sure not to throw hospital balls.

Do you know how fucking hard it is to switch teams and then win the SB and then lose out on going to the SB the next year by only 3 points to a Rams superteam?

This analogy would make sense if Aspas was braindead and Chronicle was a genius of the game. But that's not reality, so dogshit fucking analogy.

#16
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That’s what I’m saying, chronicle isn’t the igl which would essentially be a quarterback in this esport, this is a terrible analogy

Exact same thing could be said for lebron and Messi

#17
Zelestia
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Tell them

#23
serot
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Yeah calling Brady not even top 5 QB's is fucking diabolical

#19
wizurdsss
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so chorns the greatist and aspas is the best easy

#21
9wntr
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yap yap
PARIS FINAL BOSS
TOKYO FINAL BOSS
TORONTO FINAL BOSS
alfajer.

#22
serot
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This is like calling Robert Horry the NBA GOAT over Lebron James

#25
Yistyy
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nah eyetest wise chronicle doesn't move me at all. where as with brady the way he was able to control every facet of a game, his impact was just on another level.

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meatyyy
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I will only engage with these arguments if someone tells me how chronicle is better than alfajer.

#29
maxazevedo
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Smartness is an allergy to you, first of all completely different things, first of all, why u're using NFL, using football is way better, aspas is Messi, doesn't matter if he didn't win all the titles, he is always there just being better then the others, its just that, Chronicle is Xavi, also great but thats it, to be the goat u can't be Xavi, its just not about being good and title, its about being the best of the bests and achievements, put Chronicle in MIBR and they're shit even tho Chronicle is insane, put aspas in fnatic and they will never lose a map. What aspas does cannot be overturned by collective achievements, the only gap between aspas and Chronicle are their teams, im sorry but if Messi had played his entire carreer for Tottenham and had one UCL, he would still be the goat.

#30
gamergirl
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tom brady also has like 20 legendary moments

i wonder who's the legend on the teams chronicle has played for

oh yeah

derke and alfa made the 11-3 comeback, leo became the perfect player, nats was the superstar the entirety of M3C and gambit

chronicle isn't a leader like tom is, chronicle hasn't carried franchises like tom has

boaster is tom brady if you wanna be fr

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