Why is chron the goat candidate out of fnc? Alfajer is more impressive, only has one less trophy, carried Tokyo and nearly carried them to Toronto trophy as well.
How’s Alfa lower in goat convo than chron? Just seems bizarre to me
He literally outperforms him nearly every tournament
WHY CHRON ISNT THE GOAT
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chron: 3 trophies
aspas:1 trophy
Alfa: 2 trophies
Aspas: alot of world records
consistent top 3 in champs
Alfa: sick against PRX, and they still won (thanks kaajak you back)
One less trophy but Alfa is better than chron and is younger so he has won the same amount of trophies in the time they both been competing
Sure but its called greatest "of all time" not greatest "of the time everyone relevant was competing"
Chronicle has a year on him where he was the best player in the world, its not really that hard tbh.
Well Alfa was the best player in 2023, he’s better this year too
Chron was slightly worse than nats in 2021, and only slightly better than Alfa in 2024
What argument is there for chron above Alfa
The argument is that chron has won more throphies has been good for a longer time and more importantly has won with different teams
Trophies in a team game? You know a 5v5 team game? How does that make him, as an individual, a better player? Alfa is literally better than him for ALL of the time they played together AND he was better in 2022 as well. Alfa has been better than chronicle for 3 years (22,23,25) as opposed to 2 (21,24)
Its not called best its called greatest, Atm chovy is playing better than faker, does that make him the goat of league?
Chovy hasn’t been better than faker for all of leagues history
Alfa has literally been better than chronicle for longer than the reverse
Idk what ur watching but excluding worlds playoffs chovy has been beter for the last 2 and a half years
Yeah but faker has been a top player since like 2012.
Comparatively, Alfa has been better for more years than chron has been better than him for, despite chron even playing a year longer
Chronicle was definitely better than Nats in 2021, my friend, you need to follow back some Gambit games, nAts peaked at Berlin, above Chron, but still they had the same rating. We all know how Champs 2021 went, Chron was the best player of that entire tournament.
Also best player of 2023 was Leo, Alfa was better, but Chron was definitely better than him during their Lockin win.
They were tied, if you consider domestic performances as well. Nats was slightly better in Berlin (tied stats more impact) and chron was better at champs. Dw, I watched it live and I felt chron was very underrated at the time
Disagree on the lock-in take. They were roughly the same level and chron had a rough finals
They were definitely not tied lol, Chronicle was the best player at Gambit. Almost every Gambit player will say the same, hell even nAts will say the same lol
I swear I saw some gambit players say it was sheydos who was their best player.
Anyways, regardless, considering 2022 as well nats was the better of the two. Sheydos was arguably better that year as well (granted chron was in an off role)
he has 1 year of competition on alfa where he also got champs 2nd place and won a title
In the time they both competed not only has Alfa been straight up better (BIG gap in 2023), he’s won the same amount
How can u be greater just because of ur age (something Alfa can’t control?)
obviously if a player has played for longer and won more theyre considered greater or had a better career
its like this in every all time goat discussion in any medium
because he has almost no individual achievements, unlike where chron and alfa each have one mvp
please stop pretending to be clueless
Why’s device not the cs goat then?
Chron doesn’t have Berlin mvp btw
U might believe he does, but same way chichoo and Izu don’t have an mvp he doesn’t either
this lists aspas as champs mvp, he would be the goat by an even bigger margin if that was the case
If there are supporters for aspas being the goat, then I don't see why Alfa can't also be considered. Alfa has won more and has performed consistently at a very high level.
Many reasons.
Longevity.
Doing it across different rosters in different languages.
Being as consistent as he has been.
And let's not think that he was carried to any of the trophies while being a statue. Whether Gambit or Fnatic he's always been reliable and insane at his fragging too.
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