in no world does lamine yamal deserve second
sure ousmane dembulance can take it but how is raphinha 5th
how does salah’s epl-breaking season go under vitinha
pedri in 11th you have to be joking
tf did vini do all year he’s 16th
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he has the kopa trophy two years in a row he can take that
but how does his jbl speaker yi que fue ass finish SECOND pls explain
because if u actually watch the football games and not stats or highlights u can see he is the main creative threat for Barça, u can take Raphinha out and he is easier to replace than a player who creates so many qualitative and numerical superiorities, even if he still needs to work on his finishing to improve his G/A numbers if u look at underlying numbers and watch the games u can see how much impact he has, even just from the fact that he forces the other team to put at least 2 players on him or get cooked
basically everything goes through him, he is the backbone and main difference maker for Spain and Barça
fr, what did he do to deserve it lmao
was never the best player on his team at any one point
you are 15yo at best if u think this, football didnt start with the Ronaldo and Messi era, many different players won the Ballon Dor before those two aliens, Dembele isnt even close to being the worst ballon dor winner
I know it didnt, but dembele was LITERALLY KICKED OUT of barcelona 2 years ago bro
Normal career development for footballers, its just that in recent years there is an obsession over finding the new wonderkid, players specially the ones with the qualities of Mbappe peaking at 27yo is normal. Sometimes it just doesnt work out at a certain club for whatever reason, maybe wrong club, wrong city or wrong time so its normal that he grows stronger after such a hard period and fulfills his potential at a different club
i watch epl mostly, but ucl helps me get a sensing of the rest of europe + watching highlights lol
asian premtards </3, where are my indonesian and chinese based italian football enjoyers that name their children after Serie A players
what’s so wrong about us lol
i do have to admit tho there are a lot of older man utd enjoyers, but the majority of the people ik support liverpool
I am just tired of premtards, all new to football that think there is only football played in England, basically like f1 fans being tired of clueless fangirls who became fans because of a netflix documentary
nah i started off as a premtard supporting liverpool, then became a barca fan while messi was still there, then after messi left went back to liverpool
i still enjoy barca tho
i only started looking at f1 cos there was nothing in the football offseason and i just like fast car
definition of plastic and glory hunter respectfully, changing teams to support another npc club like Barça because of Messi only to go back to Liverpool is crazy hahaha, at least u are not one of those idiots that support 3 different big teams but basically it sucks to see european sports get a bit ruined by globalization to US/Asia markets, thankfully in Italy or Germany local fans still get priority for tickets otherwise we would just get no fan support and 0 atmosphere games like EPL
Ballon dor is a popularity contest that’s for sure. But atleast in that I am happy Dembele won I don’t care about other rankings from #2 and below. I was worried his achievements this year will go unnoticed.
You have seen many occasions that popularity has won. Messi & Ronaldo both have a bdor where they shouldn’t have, Salah won a puskas award the year bale and Ronaldo scored those overhead kick goals (even Salah himself has scored better goals than the one that won puskas).
no shit it is
but raphinha and salah individually have better seasons than dembele himself; if this is an individual award then how is dembulance winning this
that puskas was an absolute robbery though yeah
It’s the individual/ team achievements as well for that year. And it’s voted by selected coaches, national team captains & journalists. So they choose who has had a successful year. So it is somewhat subjective.
exactly
i would let it slide if he was >=7th; how is he in ELEVENTH
list of everyone who’s above him:
ousmane dembele (deserved ig but not first)
lamine yamal (deserved??????)
vitinha (deserved)
salah (deserved)
raphinha (deserved)
hakimi (deserved?)
mbappe (ehhhh)
cole palmer (no)
donnarumma (ehhh, prolly not)
nuno mendes (deserved)
saying modric deserved the ballon dor is insane. cr7 outperformed him in every metric that year, the only excuse for modric winning was croatia's world cup run, even though he wasnt even their best player of croatia in that tournament
i dont really know that much about the modric ballon d’or because 2018 was my first year of football, but rodri fully deserved last year over vini
in my opinion no. vini outperformed rodri in both the champions league and national league. the only argument for rodri would be the euro mvp, which he basically stole, since yamal, dani olmo and nico williams deserved it way more. what really pushed him was the european bias, that’s what gave him the ballon dor. like, he won by a landslide in europe, while the rest of the world leaned towards vini. there were even european journalists justifying their vote for rodri because “he has a college degree” lol
then that means they followed the same thing for dembele this year i guess
to me im just massively biased by the city falloff after rodri acl lol
goals: dembele (35) > raphinha (34)
assists: raphinha (25) > dembele (16)
g/a: raphinha (59) > dembele (51)
ucl goals: raphinha (13) > dembele (8)
ucl assists: raphinha (8) > dembele (6)
ucl g/a: raphinha (22) > dembele (14)
league goals: dembele (21) > raphinha (18)
league assists: raphinha (11) > dembele (8)
league g/a: dembele = raphinha (29)
trophies: dembele (quad) > raphinha (domestic treble)
league: raphinha (laliga) > dembele (psg)
clutch moments: raphinha >>> dembele
final ranking: dembele 1st, raphinha 5th
can you do this for lamine vs raphina, want to see how deserved that 2nd place was
that wouldn’t be fair because the main argument for lamine is his dribbles completed
raphinha v dembele is a better comparison because they are more similar?? idk but these are the 2 in contention for me
in terms of ga lamine has more league assists but raphinha had more ucl assists
for all the other ga stats raphinha wins by a blowout
I think his insane champions league performance should set raphina ahead of lamal even if he had more assists in la liga and more dribbles completed. It just shows that he was a great in and out of their local league
yep, iinw he’s (13g 8a) tied with lewandowski’s ballon d’or-deserving 19/20 season (15g 6a) as the second most g/a in a ucl season oat behind ronaldo’s legendary 13/14 season (17g 5a)
b0ll0n d0r judges like to judge off big games too (still doesn’t explain why dembulance first)
dumfries vs barca was insane
Dembelé winning says a lot about the quality of the players we have nowadays. Grim era of modern football.
many worse players won it before Messi and Ronaldo and lets be honest u only watched certain players in highlights or what old people told you, the careers of retired players get glazed a lot because everyone forgets about the bad parts, no1 remembers Robben being trash in many big games and shitting the bed vs Chelsea in CL final or Zidane being inconsistent
ballon d'or has always been a popularity contest, it could masquerade as a serious award when the only two people in the running already have everybody that watches football split into two ~50/50 fanbases so it actually came down to who performed better, now that there isn't always a clear favourite it becomes more about favouritism
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