Vyse in pro play

If the wall gets fake triggered along with the C ability so many times in a game.
So what's the point of playing vyse?
Just the ult?

thorns

Sentinel that actually does something on attack and if that's happening so often you complain about it then they vyse players are doing something wrong to an extent

Mostly stall. She's a great agent to stall a hit for a little. However, she still has map control/holding capabilities. She also has a great ult. She's very versatile

She has 3 other amazing abilities

1. wall getting triggered is still info and stalls time for rotates
2. thorns guarantee stall and punishes people that walk through
3. flash gets info and is pre-placed

wall is for info like an alarmbot. still has value even if it doesnt stop an exec

thorns has the longest stall time in the game, better than sage
the flash not only flashes but calls out a player
the wall triggers regardless of where you are on the map

The wall is now just a trip, the vines are still the real strength of this agent

silver question

even if it gets tripped by either yoru or a jump peek it still means theres someone there, and if they dont trip it theres nobody. legit same as a cypher trip

The whole point is that you have to waste time every round defaulting all her utility because if you try to hit vyse’s site in the late round without doing that, you probably will lose

hella stall

Dude that's like saying "if they break the trips then what's the point of playing Cypher?"

Even if the wall gets baited out, it's still information and it acts as stall as will

I think Vyse is really good for pro-play for sites that have choke points, Cypher is still better overall but Vyse is a little more useful in attack i think with Thorn lineups + flashes for post plant.