The truth about Aspas

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pugz

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If he was American he would have 100x more glaze and the GOAT debate would never exist

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But Chronicle is EMEA ?

Also this is dumb asf since people also talked about Aspas helped put Brazil on the map, which he'd just lose if he was American. Not to mention, most of Aspas fans are Brazillian if he was American he wouldn't retain most of that fanbase

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Look at TenZ, bro is shit compare to Aspas and Chronicle and some people put him in the top 5

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how is he shit if he took his team to 2 trophies?

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marxlboro

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by this logic sacy and boaster should be in top 5 convo and we all know this isnt true

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Yistyy

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tenz was the best player and 2nd best player for his trophies. sacy and boaster weren't even top 3 for any of theirs.

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yet 1 Champions + 1 masters >>>>>>>> 2 masters

and sacy was irreplacable in the champions run

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yea i agree with u. all my point was is that tenz was never shit.

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marxlboro

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we can agree on that too, but at this point of the game i wouldnt put him into top 5 oat

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And what about Sacy? He also won 2 trophies, Champions AND Masters and people dont put him in the fucking top 15

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Yistyy

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people dont put him in the fucking top 15

that's also dumb

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Cael

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To be fair Tenz peak was good but indeed didnt achieve a lot lot he cant be considered goat for that reason but he can be considered one of the goats bcs his fan base became a sort of a stepping stone for getting valorant on the map especially NA

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Yistyy

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maybe, but there's a narrative going around that he mainly plays for stats.

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It’s accurate

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tenz if he never retired

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i disagree heavily, his fans are brazilian and there are way more passionate brazilian fans then NA imo atleast

also if he was not brazilian loud would’ve never been the powerhouse of a team they were and he wouldn’t even be someone but that’s a crazy hypothetical so yea

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It's far closer to the opposite in fact I'm fairly sure he wouldn't have even played that much if he was American

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Yes, aspas would be the face of the game if he was american. TenZ is a great player, and is considered one of the best players of all time, still he is definitely not as good as aspas in terms of impact or even stats. Brazilian fans are passionate, but the hate towards brazil is huge too. Just see all the tierlist from previous champs and you'll notice how bad BR teams are placed. Tier D loud won champs for example. No matter how good BR players or teams are, they'll always be underrated by others.

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Agree

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DrudaL

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100%
just look at oxy, not even win trophy, he got 0 international attendance but people alr glaze him as the best duelist and other shit