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Can we please stop with the NRG narratives?

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andrzx

I don’t get it, NRG played China’s 3rd seed and Pacific’s 4th. Both had massive round leads, could’ve easily closed it out multiple times, but they CHOKED so hard, turned their brains off and straight up threw. How the hell is this team suddenly a contender for Champions when their wins came way more from the other teams throwing than from their own merit?

They’ve literally had the easiest path to playoffs so far bruh 💔💔💔

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EDG played the best out of all 4 CN teams, they should be CN#1

DRX is a fraud team though they have t0rmi

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as a T1 fan, DRG played better

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229fn
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okay yeah fair enough, I am a DRG enjoyer and I think they played amazingly

I also stopped watching the EDG game after the pistol at 11-2 so :/

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i mean EDG also didn’t play bad either, the real disappointment is easily BLG

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I wouldn't say that, they faced MIBR

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how is that the easiest path to playoffs?

NRG had to adapt on the fly to the new shit drx cooked up and they were to tame them

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andrzx
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DRX trolled and threw a bunch of rounds with random solo duels. Once DRX started messing up out of nowhere, even while holding a round lead, NRG started to get back into the map. That’s exactly what I meant, both EDG and DRX built huge leads after playing almost perfect games and then just gave it away. This goes way beyond NRG “imposing their game”, especially since today they even had tactical pauses and still lost the round right after lol, both teams hard choked

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that shit was not easy wtf do u mean

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Yk your point is cooked when delighted is defending NRG

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Being in a group with EDG, TL and DRX is not easy lol

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andrzx
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all the other groups are way tougher bro 💔💔💔

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they just arent

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andrzx
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ofc the opinion of a guy named ''NRGSUPERFAN'' is gonna be totally valid and unbiased, I’ll definitely be listening to that for sure bro

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yes because

PRX getting XLG and GX is harder
FNC getting BLG and MIBR is harder
T1 getting DRG and TH is harder

be serious

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andrzx
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Your team is going to playoffs without even facing a seed 1, bro, are you kidding me? GX is WAY better than EDG and DRX, just look at the fight they gave PRX today. And honestly, XLG played better than EDG, their only bad luck was facing the best team in the world in their first match.

You know damn well if NRG had landed in the group with PRX or G2, they’d be screwed.

Also, the MIBR group (Aspas on Champions buff) has Pacific’s 2nd seed and FNATIC, which is a superteam.

And a group with G2, TH and T1 is definitely stronger than one with EDG and DRX. u have to be serious here bro

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GX is WAY better than EDG and DRX, just look at the fight they gave PRX today. And honestly, XLG played better than EDG, their only bad luck was facing the best team in the world in their first match.

DRX 2-0’d the team that 3-0’d GX, and EDG beat XLG in their most recent matchup. GX only looked impressive against arguably the worst americas team in the event, had one good map against PRX, then proceeded to get shitstomped

Also, the MIBR group (Aspas on Champions buff) has Pacific’s 2nd seed and FNATIC, which is a superteam.

if you wanna base this off of superstition, i can play that game too

NRG’s group has:

  • the defending world champions
  • the most notorious group stage merchants of all time
  • the clear best EMEA team heading into champs

and they made it out 1st seed

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andrzx
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lil bro u cant be for real, did you even watch the damn game or just look at stats on vlr? GX could’ve beaten PRX 2-0, the second map was close, it was only on the third that they felt the pressure. NRG would get smoked by them.

And I’m not even talking superstition here, any team with Aspas is a strong team no matter what you say.
Also I don’t get why you’re even bringing up Liquid when you didn’t even play them, get out.

They went through as a 1st seed after both teams they faced choked insanely hard :D

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GX could’ve beaten PRX 2-0, the second map was close, it was only on the third that they felt the pressure.

meanwhile, NRG faced that pressure on three different maps and didn’t crumble, unlike GX. i’m confident that in a battle of attrition NRG wins

any team with Aspas is a strong team no matter what you say

MIBR was fresh off of the worst international performance of all time, with aspas dropping the worst performance of his entire career. of course he’s good, but saying “oh hehe we have aspas in our group so it’s hard” is disingenuous given the season they had

They went through as a 1st seed after both teams they faced choked insanely hard

perhaps tell the EMEA seed not to choke that egregiously then and maybe we’d have a conversation. i can also say that BLG choked immensely hard after being the champions of their region, SEN choked immensely hard by folding against GX, G2 choked immensely hard after allowing TH to 2-0 them

NRG’s best strength is their mental and resilience in moments where they need to play how they usually play without choking. you’d know that if you watched the matches lol

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meanwhile, NRG faced that pressure on three different maps and didn’t crumble, unlike GX. i’m confident that in a battle of attrition NRG wins

What pressure, bro? The teams literally CHOKED, NRG only started looking good once the other team began making insane mistakes out of nowhere. Also you’re underestimating GX in such a wild way.

MIBR was fresh off of the worst international performance of all time, with aspas dropping the worst performance of his entire career. of course he’s good, but saying “oh hehe we have aspas in our group so it’s hard” is disingenuous given the season they had

Aspas had the 4th best K/D in Americas without even making playoffs, even higher than Mada who played the whole tournament, and he was above him in every stat, plus he’s mechanically way better than Mada 💔💔💔
Talking about Toronto and trying to downplay Aspas’ year is crazy bro, what he did on MIBR with a team full of rookies that give him zero support to play freely is insane, he carried them to Masters and got two back-to-back top 3s. Aspas is ASPAS, even in his “worst year” he’s still a much better player than your duelist by a lot, WHZY from the #1 Chinese team tried to clown on him and got absolutely FARMED.

i can also say that BLG choked immensely hard after being the champions of their region, SEN choked immensely hard by folding against GX, G2 choked immensely hard after allowing TH to 2-0 them

BLG were never even ahead in rounds, they got hit with some crazy anti-strats and had no clue how to react to MIBR’s comp (straight from their own coach’s words). MIBR actually played really well against them. Sentinels have been choking since Americas, that’s nothing new. And G2 also choked, they had a 7-round lead against TH and still threw multiple advantage rounds. I don’t get why you’re even bringing up those teams.

NRG’s best strength is their mental and resilience in moments where they need to play how they usually play without choking. you’d know that if you watched the matches lol

I watched both of NRG’s matches, and this is the only point I agree with you on. Mentally they’re really strong and resilient, can’t even deny that.

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What pressure, bro? The teams literally CHOKED, NRG only started looking good once the other team began making insane mistakes out of nowhere. Also you’re underestimating GX in such a wild way.

it’s very easy to just chalk up a series as just “this team choked,” and no matter what i say i probably won’t convince you of the fact because in your prior messages you constantly talk about how NRG is “nothing without the odin” and “DRX just choked” and whatnot, wherein most times NRG simply outplayed them more than DRX outplayed NRG.

i can count several times where both teams choked winnable rounds (beyn 1v4 on lotus, free1ng missing skuba on corrode, NRG getting ecoed off pistol, etc.) so just chalking it up to the fact it was just DRX that choked is disingenuous. NRG played better than DRX on the day and it is as simple as that.

Aspas had the 4th best K/D in Americas without even making playoffs, even higher than Mada who played the whole tournament, and he was above him in every stat, plus he’s mechanically way better than Mada 💔💔💔

and where was the rest of his team? aspas alone isn’t enough to 1v5 a team, i don’t care if he’s the goat or not. MIBR showed very well that if a team is bad, a team is simply bad. you’re crazy if you came into this event thinking that MIBR was all of a sudden going to farm after they bombed out of toronto and didn't even make playoffs in americas.

i think aspas is better than mada, yes. do i think he has a better team? not in the slightest, and that was made evident when they completely fumbled on LAN and in stage 2, all while NRG showed that they actually belonged here by qualifying of their own merit

I don’t get why you’re even bringing up those teams.

because i can just say “oh these teams choked” to downplay a great series played by TH, MIBR, GX, etc. just like how you’re doing to NRG now. it’s very easy to see that in most cases during the comebacks (not all of the cases, see some exceptions above) NRG simply outplayed them and had a better idea on what to do. it’s very easy for something to seem like a choke since valorant is played is procession, so if a teams wins out on one side and can’t do the same on the other, it’s gonna seem like a choke.

#29
andrzx
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i got a college exam tomorrow bro, this is way too long to read and I’m done with this argument. you win, NRG’s taking Champs lets gooo

#31
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Fold accepted

#32
mulyondoindon
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don't start something that you can't finish mate. You're clowning on your self and your flair rn.

#37
andrzx
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it’s a Valorant forum thread, bro, you think I’m out here defending my country in the army or something? lol, “clowning” my ass

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t1 is the only valid one here

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i did say group D is the group of death

NRG didn’t have the hardest path to playoffs, but it certainly wasn’t the easiest lol

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Do u think NRG will beat DRX in a rematch?

#19
andrzx
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just in case DRX actually play like a real team and stop choking, they win

#21
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Game 1 was a 100%-0% for DRX, Game 2 and 3 where 50-50
By that math, I give NRG 25% chance to win the series again, 30% at most
I gives NRG 100% chance to win if the looser end 5th

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if PRX wouldve made the comeback, everyone wouldve been dick riding the fuck outta of them so calm down and appreciate the win buddy

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this literally the group of death lol

#27
mulyondoindon
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why are we commenting on other teams achievements. Bruhhh............
Sometimes this team community is freaking restarted and it's pmo.

#34
andrzx
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i just made a random thread, it’s not that deep bro lol

#36
mulyondoindon
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it's not deep my ass. You literally just had a debate with same length as my research report

#38
andrzx
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yeah it’s not deep at all, if your research report is that short that’s your problem mf, idc. now I gotta deal with some dude who supports the same team as me getting on my nerves, fuck off dude

#39
mulyondoindon
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fucking bandwagon doing shit like this. Just let other team enjoy their achievements so they let us enjoy our achievements. Shit like you makes people clowning on PRX wins

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andrzx
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why are you even worried about what other ppl say about PRX? we’re literally the best. Does what other people say bother you more than just watching your team on top? damn, sounds like you’re already tilted about other shit and just came here to dump it.

also, bandwagon my ass, you’re talking like I didn’t watch this team crawl out of the mud to where they are now, fuck off bro u dont know me

#47
readropofgoldensun
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clearly what other people say bother you more than watching your team on top since you made a whole ass post about it

study hard bro cuz ur dumb as bricks

#33
StalwartTiger_35
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I don’t want to hear one word from an Italian prx bandwagon

#42
andrzx
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so get out your team will get cooked soon

#46
StalwartTiger_35
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Bandwagon opinion rejected. Emea is pretty strong rn so it’s extra pathetic

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There are no easy paths to playoffs at Champs, bro

Only EG 2023, they had FPX and FUT in their group 😂 😂 😂

#41
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imagine if loud won champs instead

they would’ve easily had the best run of all time it wouldn’t even be close

#44
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LOUD got the hardest path ever for sure

DRX -> Team Liquid -> NAVI -> Fnatic -> PRX -> EDG -> Fnatic -> Evil Geniuses

Imagine the stress and exhaustion of playing all these games back to back, 5 of these games were elimination games too

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Fate just didn’t want LOUD to win in 2023 💔

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