Americas Champs Points

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#1
ThassaPlus
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Mibr, Cloud9, and Nrg all currently sit at 9 champs points each. Once you reach top 4 in playoffs you get 3 extra points for 4th place and 4 extra points for 3rd place. Why is it that Mibr already qualified even though C9 and Nrg will both pass them in champs points by their next match? Can someone please explain this to me.

#2
UhhBrandon
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you only get points for 3rd, 2nd and 1st not 4th

#3
meech
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no you get 3 points for 4th

#4
ThassaPlus
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How come it says 3 points under prize distribution for 4th place spot in playoffs?

#11
temi
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You get 3 points for 4th and 4 for 3rd… 1st and 2nd auto qualify to champs…

If there’s a tie in Americas mibr beat everybody in h2h which is the tiebreaker for Americas that’s why there’s pretty much just 1 spot up for grabs in na for champs

#5
DoctorT
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MIBR hold tiebreaker over both C9 and NRG, they would have to get 3rd to get the 4 points to reach 10 total to overtake MIBR.
Tiebreaker is head to head record over the year.

#6
aleckin
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That's because Mibr wins h2h against cloud9 and nrg

#7
Togex
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I think its because liquipedia has already given the minimum amount of points they could get. For example, if you click to see more details it says NRG and C9 have 7 and 6 points from stage 2, even though they have 4 and 3 wins (since they will at least get 4th and get at least 3 points). From this, whoever gets 3rd will pass MIBR but MIBR beats the other through H2H

#10
puppocket
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this is the real answer - NRG and C9 only tie MIBR with 4th place but lose the H2H tiebreak (for NRG it comes down to rounds lol) meaning whoever gets 3rd will qualify with 1 extra point

#8
meech
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in americas, the tiebreaker for same # of champs points is h2h throughout the entire year. mibr have the h2h over every single team in the lower bracket and the only team that could've passed them in points (and thus, not need a h2h) is kru (and they're out). since sen/g2 is the upper final, 1/2 of the top 2 spots is taken by them (meaning that at least one of them will qualify based on top 2 placement in stage 2 playoffs). because of this, whoever wins nrg/c9 will lock in the last spot at champs (either based on points if it's a g2/sen rematch in the grand finals, or based on a top 2 finish if they somehow beat g2/sen in the lower final).

but basically, mibr is locked bc they did well enough at the beginning of the year to have the h2h over all the teams minus g2/sen and lev eliminated kru, so mibr were able to lock in champs

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ARix145
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Mibr won h2h vs nrg and c9 because the rules in Americas are for some reason different than every other region. In every other region the team that placed higher in stage 2 qualifies

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