About the Vlr rating system

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It feels like it's insanely biased towards low deaths, baity play style. Like an Initiator with 9/6/7 and an 85% kast 0-1 fk-fd will have higher rating than a 16/14 /2 with a 75% kast 6-2 fk-fd duelist most of the time. You watch the game and they didn't really do much but you look at the rating and somehow they're at the top?

Vlr Rating system needs to be overhauled imo or atleast it needs a lot more development before we can actually take it seriously. It's way too inaccurate in putting impact into numbers. That said i absolutely have no idea how rating works so i have zero input on how to make it better.

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whym

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Same with the ranking system. For the love of God add a global ranking system for teams.

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Cheasle2

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KAST is the most important stat in the game and if you think otherwise. you're dumb

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HyunminFanboy

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I'd say it's fk-fd

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CrackedDuelist

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but why would controllers/sentinels/initiators have a high fk-fd (even any), kast is a atleast a better metric imo

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HyunminFanboy

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I guess it depends on the role. It's harder for a duelist to have high kast than initiator where you're not really taking much risk

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KiwiJuice

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It matters alot for senti's actually.

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HyunminFanboy

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In cs sure but un val i disagree. it's way easier to have high kast on certain roles in val.

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It's a great stat tbh, could probably be improved but with no way to tell if you had good util usage it's the best thing we have

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Astar

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it should be named KAT not KAST. survival rating value is so overrated, and Assists should be more valuable

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Cheasle2

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that's stupid. If I'm holding A and they all rush B and die before I even see anyone, why should my stats suffer? KAST is a measure of how many rounds you didn't int. The only time you don't fulfil KAST is if you die for nothing.

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Galactc

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Nah not really you still see duelists at the top typically anyway

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gablin

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https://www.vlr.gg/511553/fut-esports-vs-team-vitality-vct-2025-emea-stage-2-w2

How does unfake have a higher rating than Derke and kovaQ when he is lower on every stat except assists

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HyunminFanboy

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Low deaths

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Vortexy

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Staying alive is an extremely important stat that's hard to quantify

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Congo1

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i strictly disagree. The rating is very good.

Every stat will have its pros and cons. By trying to measure one thing you will be worse at measuring another. And there are so many important variables that are hard to measure at all. It is only natural. If you changed it the way you wanted you would experience the new stats shortcomings on the other end rather quickly.

The hunt for the perfect metric is futile.

Rating is great. You can use other stats like acs to check for agression rewarding stats to fill out the whole picture. Context always matters.

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Langacune

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I wonder what are the differences vs the thespike rating. They give pretty different numbers

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GarbanzoEnjoyer

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A catch-all "stat" like that can never be taken seriously