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What to consider fluke, peak and consistent

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#1
ynuser

1) Fluke- 1 good tournament
Teams- Acend, maybe EG or FPX can be here
Players- c0m, ethan
IGL- Boostio

2) Peak- 1 good year (atleast 2/3 good tournaments in a year)
Teams- EDG, EG, Optic, Loud, Fpx, GMB, Geng, TH
Players- Demon1, Yay, Leo, Sayf, Less, Sacy, Pancada, Crashies, Ardiis, Meteor, t3xture
IGL- FNS, Ange1, Saadhak

3) Consistent- peaked in multiple years
Teams- Fnc, Prx, Sen
Players- Aspas, Derke, Leo, nAts, chronicle, F0rsaken, Mako, zmjkk, shao
IGL- Boaster

Note: This soley depends on results and doesn't consider what ifs

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consistency /kən-sĭs′tən-sē/
noun

Reliability or uniformity of successive results or events.
"pitched with remarkable consistency throughout the season."

sen doesn't fit that description

#6
ynuser
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They were good in 2021 and 2024, tbh I am confused where to put them if I am considering all time

#10
SuperRoss
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i'd put them as the highest team in peak

let's be real 21 to 23 aren't worth as much as the last two years

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Yistyy
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Nah Ethan is slept on. He's washed now, but in 2023 his util was so impactful at both tokyo and champs. He was like a slightly worse leo but on flash initiator.

And on top of that he was also at lans at 2021 and was solid.

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ynuser
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He hasn't replicated his individual performance as 2023 in a while

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Yistyy
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Yeah but he should be in the 2nd tier. He had multiple good tournaments.

#4
sw4gman
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sen were NOT consistent, they sucked after madrid and before they eliminated geng in champs 24'

#5
catNmouse
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boaster is definitely not in FLUKE, the other 3 IGLs ahead of him are either retired or haven’t done anything since then

#7
ynuser
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Oh it was supposed to be boostio, I will fix it

#8
uwukitten
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ethan wasn't a fluke, if you watch the NRG games he still has his moments and his utility still looks great. he's just more of a system player than the type to carry the team
also sen changed their roster every year, fym consistent. it's practically a different core each year

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ynuser
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Ethan was not good in 2022, 2024 he had good maps but not very good. His util is still great no doubt but I think his individual performance rn is nowhere close to 2023

#9
gordonramsay
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I would put meteor and t3xture at consistent by now, same with kk, yay (hot take but yay peaked in multiple years just not in recent years)

#12
ynuser
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Let's wait this year atleast

#37
Verstepping33
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t3xture has always been conisstent..
It's just barely anyone knew him 2021-22 because DRX were dominating KR and D0mwon Gaming keke

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gordonramsay
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meteor lowkey consistent too since Northeption days

#39
Verstepping33
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minus 2023 (elm0puddy)

#14
ArterieX
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FPX fluke ? ohk i see the loud flair

#16
sentinelmain377
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FPX Fluke??????????????????????????????????????????????????

They were the first team to do a FULL lower bracket run for the trophy ever (and the only team to do it). and they had the whoel sub situation

They are the least fluke trophy winners ever

#17
catNmouse
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not to mention they also got top 4 at champions so they had more than just 1 good tournament

#18
sentinelmain377
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and robbed of Reykjavik trophy due to Putin

#20
ynuser
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(maybe)

I have them in peak
And maybe only cause of first masters result (not considering what if)

Infact I have all players in peaks, and have shao in consistent which today no one will consider

#29
Abcdefg
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well a top 4 at champs at lock in for me puts them in peak

#19
brahianv
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fluke? that optic the most fraudulent master run of all time

#21
Astar
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SEN was irrelevant for whole 2023. Optic was way more consistent

#22
ynuser
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Where was prx in 2024 and 2021 lil bro, be happy I got them in consistent

#23
mondely
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Bro is really comparing sen(who didn’t even make it to an international in 2022 and 2023 except lock in) with prx(team tied with fnatic for most international appearances at 10)

#32
Astar
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prx attended every international in 2024?
2021 jinggg didnt exist

what are you trying to say here

#24
Roly05
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within this list, why is Loud considered a peak? I feel like Loud were good (top-level team even) from 2022-2023 maybe even beginning of 2024.
For consistent Leo & KangKang I'm not entirely sure, since I feel like they both had crazy insane peaks, but weren't super consistently at that super high level?
Also you have Leo twice, in consistent and peak - is that on purpose?

Last is I'm unsure of peak. A few ones make sense (most of the teams make sense honestly - though GenG, Loud? Gen G is up in the air I suppose, if they have a good champs this year I'd argue they'd make consistent. Loud had 2022 where they placed 2nd and won champs, and then in 2023 placed 2nd and 3rd in champs. That has to count for consistent rather than peak, no?) Sayf, Crashies, Pancada and Sacy I think shouldn't be in peak. I don't think Sayf has had a consistent good year (might've been 2023?), but Crashies, Pancada and Sacy have shown that their peaks definitely weren't one-time things. At least Sacy should be out of peak, 2022 with Loud and 2024 with Sen.

#25
ynuser
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I agree with most of ur points.

#28
Roly05
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Ahh alright, fair enough. I was honestly just curious to see what made you put who where. Hope I didn't come across as too aggressive hahaha, just wondered what your thought process was :)

#26
Effluxi
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holy SEN sneak

#27
Froxe
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Get fpx out of fluke, they would’ve won Reykjavik 2 if they went

#30
Maniacwolf
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Kangkang hasn’t peaked in multiple years yet

#31
Maniacwolf
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Can we call eg a fluke? They won in a tournament with prime fnc and loud. Then they disbanded.

#33
ynuser
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Tbh this is a "what if" moment

#34
Maniacwolf
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true

#35
localkoolkid
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do NOT diss Ange1 like that

#36
ynuser
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I think this is the highest ange1 has been rated in a while on this site

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