Omen shouldn’t be nerfed

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#1
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Omen is very commonly picked, but he doesn’t feel oppressive or overpowered, so instead of nerfing him, buff harbor (viper harbor comps would cause a drop in omen pick rate). An astra or brim buff (2stim beacons and some cooldown changes, maybe on recalled stars), and omen is completely balanced and will only be played on maps where the blind is too op (like ascent/lotus (tps), and haven (though astra will too, as will harbor viper)

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I don’t think agents should be nerfed due to high pick rate unless they are oppressive or overpowered. Omens blind simply gets more value than astra’s global utility and 5 stars (due to cooldown), and brim’s 3 smokes at once gimmick is useful on only 2 maps in the game. Harbor is downright useless unless on icebox. So buff them instead of nerfing omen

#3
termtermtermterm
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the unhealthy pickrate wont stop because of just how good he is, so there should be more focus on buffs for the other smokers, but this is riot so who gives a fuck about logic

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SuperRoss
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he doesn’t feel oppressive or overpowered

he does, especially when compared to other controllers

#5
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Does he really? People just pick him because the other controllers simply don’t get enough value to be absolutely necessary on most maps, than specifically because of omen, other than on specific maps where his blind and tps get a lot of value (ascent, lotus). Also, having a controller than has blinds and a to encouraging team fights and aggressive controller plays is a good thing and healthy for the state of the game, unlike an agent like tejo

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WatsomN
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it's more of other controllers are suck ass compared to omen

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SuperRoss
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it's both, but omen is the only controller that can be at any place and elevation in a site both in attack and defense, whilst still offering great smokes.

when we had a similar issue with chamber he got nerfed to the ground and was only playable again after a minor buff,
omen doesn't get the same treatment only because we've become accustomed to his high pick-rate and because he's not quite as dominant (mainly because of who mains it, has to be said), but it's desperately needed, you can't buff the others without major omen nerfs first.

reality is that it's almost throwing to not play omen on pretty much all maps, unless you have a real plan and know what you're doing, just like it was with chamber 2 years ago, omen was already dominant but it's only gotten worse and the only way out i can see is a big nerf.

#6
Zerphyr1
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riot is tryna reduce reliance on abilities and ability spam tho so its more likely they will just nerf most things instead of buff

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The other problem, is, even if you nerf him unless you nuke his blind, he will always be picked. A suck or a stun that gives you a cooldown on your smokes as well, or a stim/molly and no rechargeable smokes will always be worse than a good omen blind. If they nuke his blind, omen will just be dogshit, not balanced.

#8
ynuser
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We can get an astra/omen meta but idk what would be a balanced buff to astra

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Reduce cooldown on astra stars when recalled, or buff ult duration, or maybe decrease the cooldown on duck/stun maybe?

#12
ynuser
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What if we increase one star 😈

#13
Uncleben
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That would be insane, but I don’t know how op it would actually be. It’s the cooldowns that’s the issue with astra more than running out of stars.

#9
Bernazoka
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yeah and then we have double controller meta again

#11
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Idk tho, we don’t really have old skye to run with the double controller. Gekko and Kayo are kind of mid replacements

Vyse is really strong, as is double initiator and double duelist. Not everyone will run double controller even if it is op

#19
Effluxi
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holy watch games solo yoru exists and the last broken meta abused him hard

yes Omen needs fucking nerfed

stop feelscrafting from your ranked performance and start looking at vod review and making comparisons to other controllers

he needs a cooldown and projectile nerf on his smokes so they're not always best in slot and paranoia needs a windup. AT MINIMUM. That preserves his aggressive identity without making him always better than Astra at minimum. Then you can buff everyone else to be on par with postnerf-omen and Astra.

#14
Pedri_isTheGoat
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Agreed, its riot fault not making good controller anymore

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gambzki
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the problem with buffing other controllers is it'd create a double smoke meta which is oppressive so it makes more sense to bring down omen to the other controller's level. but i do agree that harbor is ass and needs a buff cause he is a tier below

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just buff harbor & astra, i dont wanna see clove get any playtime

#17
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I wish if they removed clove from the game. Reyna too ideally, but I’d rather clove gets gone first. Or at least severely reworked

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