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team liquid comps

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kfan4238173

this is probably one of the most interesting team dynamics ive ever seen in valorant. definitely the first team to have one like this.

on short notice the team has practice on some maps with one player, and some with another player. however, it is not like a typical 6 man roster where its all planned practice to allow the rotating players to shine. it is with randomness because of prepping with some players on some days for some maps for some opponents.

todays icebox was weird, because they could have easily just played with serial and went kamo on jett/gekko and serial on kj, but instead they did what seemed to be forcing kamo chamber to make everyone comfortable. i can only speculate as to why, but thankfully it worked out

also on todays sunset was also interesting, they could have played a similar comp to last time, where i would only suggest swapping keiko and pennys role (penny iso and keiko omen). this one is maybe easier to imagine the reasoning. they probably didnt like the iso comp and if penny isnt on duelist there isnt a good agent for him on sunset, as it would either be breach, omen, cypher or viper, or smth similar.

but anyway im gonna think of some comps that i would WANT liquid to play, although some of these i dont think will happen. maybe this will help me imagine what maps liquid will be strong on for the rest of the event

ASCENT: this one is pretty easy, they were inconsistent regionally but they have a lot of practice with double senti already and this is one of the best maps for it
yoru - kamo
sova - pati
omen - keiko
deadlock - serial
cypher - nats
i am confident serial plays with a similar comp to this

HAVEN: this map was awful for liquid with serial, often playing some shitty double senti comp and the viper comps didnt go well either. they could do a viper comp similar to GEN.Gs but id prefer double duelist with penny
yoru - kamo
neon - penny
sova - pati
omen - keiko
cypher - nats
i am confident penny plays with a similar comp to this (like penny iso or the last comp they used)

ICEBOX: the result vs mibr was very good, but i have an aversion to chamber. i also think theres some issue with kamos jett on this map, since it seems they always shy away from picking it
gekko - kamo
kayo - pati
harbor - keiko
viper - nats
kj - serial
i doubt serial plays icebox but he should

LOTUS: theres very little to go off with this map, i think a double duelist option could be strong but the default comp is probably best
raze - kamo
fade - pati
omen - keiko
viper - nats
kj - serial
hard to say who plays this one

PEARL: with so little time to practice u need a permaban and u might as well keep it as pearl, but it can be one of their best maps with penny imo
yoru - kamo
jett - penny
fade - pati
astra - keiko
vyse - nats
they prob keep banning pearl for a while but this is a clear pick if they want to play it imo

SPLIT: very strong map so i can understand changing nothing, but i just think penny is better than serial and he fits very well here
yoru - kamo
raze - penny
fade - pati
omen - keiko
viper - nats
probably serial playing instead

SUNSET: i was very surprised liquid picked this, i think they only picked it because mibr got rolled on it the day prior. otherwise i think sunset will be liquids worst map during this event.
neon - kamo
sova - pati
omen - keiko
viper - nats
cypher - serial
they likely keep this comp

TL;DR: liquid has rlly unorthodox situation and will be very interesting to watch develop. i think penny should play 3 maps in a double duelist with kamo, and serial the other 4 either as a second senti with nats or a sole senti when nats is on viper.

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Dudhi
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imagine a run

#4
kfan4238173
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first 6 man roster to win something

#3
yukky
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-keiko +penny

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SENfns
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no cuz keiko is their 2nd best after nats 💔

#12
presence
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bait used to be believable

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31Raven
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*more believable

#6
darklord69
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get a job gang 💔

#9
kfan4238173
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dont promote self harm under my post pls

but i actually have an interview soon...

#7
LocoMonteiro
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they rinsed MIBR on their only good map, obviously they are not changing that comp

#8
SENfns
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on pearl why not just run penny on neon instead of jett i'd say thats arguably a better pick

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kfan4238173
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oh yeah i shouldve mentioned he can go neon/phx too

all 3 options are very good

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yoshiGG
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interesting ideas, although i think nats would feel more comfortable on cypher instead of vyse on pearl

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GambleNats
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fire ideas, not too much of a fan for the icebox comp tho

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temi
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Liquid don’t play default on lotus… waylay double senti, kinda nice actually

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iplayval
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Youre cooking but realistically i dont see them winning tomorrow. What do you think they should do when they return to europe? Are you on the replace serial/patitek train or do you think the starting 5 can go far in champs?

Personally I think the team is able to adapt very very quickly which has me worried for their spots since they can pick up someone new and still do well. I think if they stick together they’re good

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kfan4238173
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i think we should replace serial
i actually think adding penny and making 6man roster is an upgrade, regardless of the practice situation. its kind of hard to play haven and pearl with the original 5.

i would want liquid to sign a brand new player who can play initiator. either they can become the flex or become the recon and pati becomes the flex

players i thought of are sevire, starxo (prob too expensive), davih (prob too expensive), chadi (maybe not good enough off duelist), and zeek (already on the ascension favourite so taking him is kinda awkward for all parties)

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K4ziuHa
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Kidnap Leo from the hospital bed and let him do a Swedish Deluge on the roster

#18
delighted
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allat to lose to pepper ecks

#19
kfan4238173
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Bump cause we play now

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Stormbreakers
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I think playing meta-ish comps is a disadvantage for TL in this tournament, even though the comfort level is a positive factor.

SUNSET: i was very surprised liquid picked this, i think they only picked it because mibr got rolled on it the day prior. otherwise i think sunset will be liquids worst map during this event.

Sunset coming into this meta has been known for a while. And from the way they played, it seemed like they put some thought process behind it. I think it'll be fine.

TL's worst map might actually be Lotus again. They gained a lot from double sentinel and Tejo, I doubt they had time to cook something new since they were also unwilling to run the FNC-esque comp previously.

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yeah lotus is definitely a possible weak point, their lotus was good and cool but was only possible with tejo

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