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SEN's Roles

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#1
eric_5008

Am I tripping for wanting Zellsis back on flash ini, its not that john is bad on it, but zellis's util has always been phenomenal.

I just feel like the team will have a higher ceiling with john on senti by increasing the overall "firepower" presence across the map. I know it won't happen bc john prefers to call on ini

#2
Dudhi
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imma be real, idk if johns calling has improved that crazily cuz of the role switch

#4
gamergirl
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the team is actually worse in the midround because zellsis contributes a lot hahah

#3
cameran
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putting zellsis on flash init def will help out a lot but just unfortunate for n4rrate that he couldnt adapt to sentinel well enough, while zellsis was already good

#5
Meccano
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SEN starts off pretty strong most rounds/halves this stage but then when it comes to the second half of the map, they fizzle out. Not even sure if it is a role thing

#6
ydahs
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Unpopular opinion, but zellsis roles are redundant and id replace him if they dont win a vct this year. QT midrounds were great last year on senti. i know they want igls on ints but it hasnt worked out

#7
cwoissa
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tenz said zellsis's kayo flashes weren't that good and he doesn't ever left click

#20
shravanfire
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you mean right click?

#8
Suiiiiiii
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They lost the finals against G2 and everyone just starts assuming them to be horrible. Compared to Bangkok they have improved by miles and I don’t see them slowing down anytime soon. G2 core has 3 years of chem compared to this lot which has 2 new kids and a year old core with new roles.

#12
catNmouse
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who was calling them horrible?

#13
Suiiiiiii
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Roughly the whole vlr (minus rational people and sen fans) after they lost to G2

#9
m4
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No you're not tripping. They have been playing double initiator. I think that Zellsis got/wanted the assignment of Vyse. I think this opened up the possibility of JohnQT going to Initiator.

I think a lot of people know JohnQT as a Cypher but he came up as a Jett player and if you go back in his match history you can see where he played Jett for certain teams. He's also got a bunch of hours in ranked beyond the sentinel role. Maybe he's bored and sees double initiator as an opportunity to flex more.
https://imgur.com/a/hBWXhYP

JohnQT -> Sentinel -> Initiator
Narrate -> Swaps Initiator with JohnQT between maps
Zekken -> Duelist
Zellsis -> Sentinel
Bang -> Smokes

#11
Suiiiiiii
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He isn’t’ ‘bored’ but being an ini igl allows him to stay with the pack, set up timings for the duelist and call rounds better. Compared to the senti where your role wrt calling is limited as you tend to find timings for flanks, create secondary openings and rotations.

#15
m4
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Can't really speak to what JohnQT actually thinks. Just assuming. And I see a couple assumptions poking through your response.

Just telling you what I see when I look at the fact that JohnQT produces more damage and eliminations in an aggressive role. You can see it in the stat lines.

Plus the original question was strictly about roles. I just added my thoughts to it based on the data.

#10
Durarara
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The honest truth is Johnqt is not better than Valyn
Plain and simple… don’t think he will ever be

#14
fr0ster0p
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Bro johnqt won them master in his 1st year in sentinels team Sen is consistent top 4 team in Americas after he joined the team

#16
Durarara
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Doesn’t mean Valyn isn’t better than him…

#17
fr0ster0p
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You said John will never better then valyn ever that's why

#18
Durarara
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I mean Johnqt has a long way to go… for some reason his calling sometimes looks too simple and obvious and sometimes they are good.

He needs to actually become a true leader for Sen to be great

#23
_AshBorne_
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blud u lost to t1 who has stax as an igl, we can all can easily say both valyn and johnqt can beat him in calling and performance wise

#19
DONALD_DUNK
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If they were going to make a change, I feel like it would be N4rrate. He gets too caught up in his own head about the game, which I think would lower the team's morale.

If they really needed someone, couldn’t they get a player from the Cubert Academy, like Nismo, if Redux couldn’t fill the initiator role?

#21
Durarara
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Their roles are fine, maybe more firepower with swapping Zellsis with a cracked sentinel player
Their calling is the main issue

#22
seven_glazer
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They following the Heretics timeline: 2nd kickoff, 8th Bangkok, 2nd stage 1... 2nd Toronto?

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