Scrim Share is not DRX and GENG.

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youkpso

https://x.com/governor_val/status/1919428973802484045?s=46

This is for last year, the only one left is T1.

To begin with, Frost first mentioned the scrim leak after the T1 vs TALON game last year.

I wondered why only TALON members stated that they had proof.
However, Ban, a former T1 player, was in TALON.

In addition, Munchkin said that he and Autumn (T1HC) parted ways because of a difference in "direction"...

Is that what he meant by "direction"?

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why did he delete already smh didnt even get to bait

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youkpso

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idk
The post was about 30 minutes old.
Governor said the evidence I had was not DRX and GENG.

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By direction, there's a strong chance it's about comps.

#5

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Maybe also just general game philosophy, no?

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yes

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Difference in direction is referring to the trexx situation where difference approach towards the game I guess

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anyone get a screenshot of the tweet?

also im just guessing but i think ban probably ratted them out when he joined talon which is why frost is so convinced hes right

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youkpso

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I don't have a screenshot, sorry.
I should have taken a screenshot of this post immediately as well, since the governor deleted one of the posts yesterday.

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gone into the ether already damn

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Warlordwibz

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Autumn said JP interview article that one of the player (munchkin) had a disagreement with the foreign coach at the time in 2023 so he left (stunner).

also T1 is innocent.

Former T1 coach Daeda:
“ In Val APAC I had to make a flow chart to keep track of which teams/orgs were known for VOD sharing. An entire region w/ a Discord server where they'd share the other countries scrim VODs in the league. X team leaking to Y team and getting info from some CN teams.”

Tweet: https://twitter.com/t1_daeda/status/1919071542182637592?s=61&t=Ehwaoq90CIGM1fQLQJ4VqA

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I too would like to think that there is no T1, but under the circumstances there is only T1.
If it's not GENG or DRX in 2024, it's only T1.
I have to say that Frost and his team were mistaken about the scrim share.

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#19
what u think?

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youkpso

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If Governer's post is true, then even if your guess is correct, that guess would include T1.
Most of the scrim leaks are standard practice where the players don't know the facts and only each other's coaches share them secretly.

It is quite difficult for T1 to recover from this.
If the scrimshares are not disclosed and are not disclosed, T1 will continue to be suspect if this is not done.

At the very least, Autumn should be changed.

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Warlordwibz

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what? The theory behind #19 was the possible involvement of CN team (JDG) and possible involvement of KR org other than DRX/T1 (GenG Yoman and NS Valanalysis).

Post #10 is about defending T1 cause they possibly innocent since Daeda tweet it, it means he's against it and T1 KNOWS who the scrim leakers are. If anything T1 has the receipt (frost proof) of the leakers team. T1 should be the most innocent ones after daeda's tweet.

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So T1 is identifying the team that is doing the scrimsharing?
Has that flowchart been created or is it in the process of being created?
I can't properly understand Daeda's post alone as I am weak in English.

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FrosT meaningfully implied and framed DRX and Gen.G as teams that share scrims, while Governor excluded DRX and Gen.G.

What in the world is going on? NS wasn't around in 2024, so it can only be T1. T1 in the 2024 season? If they received scrim sharing and still had those results, he would have had to retire from val.

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It should either one of them Drx and Geng since their coaches have a past bond which till date stay together compared to autumn and Silkanon

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QWDDDF

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Then, does the evidence Governor saw become evidence against another team? No other team has said anything, so is Talon the only one with multiple pieces of evidence regarding another team's scrim sharing?

I really don't know. It just feels like someone is playing with people.

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Warlordwibz

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Theory: It's Stew + Yoman + Valanalysis

Daeda (2024 T1) said "X team leaking to Y team and getting info from some CN team".

2023 Rare Atom had Stew, and Yoman as player with Valanalysis as coach they failed to win CN ascension.
The RA team picked up by JDG to CN franchise (2024) with only Stew (1 import) and valanalysis (coach) allowed meaning Yoman had to leave.
Yoman left to join Nongshim (2024) different to the 2024 SPG roster thats wins Ascension that later get picked up by Nongshim.
October 2024, Yoman left nongshim and signed to GenG where as Valanalysis got picked up to be AC of newly promoted SPG that become Nongshim (2025).
GenG timedly mutually agree terminate Yoman in March 2025.

These 3 r just straight up strange.

Stew could very well possibly leak pacific team's scrim to Yoman (GenG) and Valanalysis (Nongshim) benefit too.
If GenG mutually terminate Yoman (GenG) and GE elevated pick him up (after tweeting GenG academy) thing, thats fkin hilarious.
Rb getting involved tweeting meaning he probably knew Stew was behind all this just laughing.

Just theory. Not insinuating rumours.

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a nongshim with leaked scrims is losing to talon three times? idk man

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skrim leaking isn't magic bro you can still get guy diffed and your players can still screw shit up

furia is not gonna beat TH just by knowing their strats in advance they need to be able to capitalise

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true but lets not act like the difference between ns and talon is the difference between furia and th. also for the rb tweet why are we acting like hes not being supportive of termi? a lot of the old drx members are clearly supporting him. even anaks, the old drx coach and last years jdg coach said that he doesnt think termi leaks scrims

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Effluxi

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wibz above theory would posit that's because DRX are clean and rb knows deets.

but otherwise cuz it just is vague. Like he could be supporting, just hinting he knows more or even both.

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you're cookin

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youkpso

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I don't even want to think about it...

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so t1 did it last year but

the only ones that they could possible scrim share with are other korean teams lol. no wonder he deleted the tweet he basically admitted to it being korean teams

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T1 is innocent, read #10

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+160 Goomana Black Express

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thatpower

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honestly my main takeaway from all this is the fact that people really want to bring down the korean teams with so much misinformation going around

#31

youkpso

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Maybe they are trying to isolate Korea in VALO so that Korea does not have the same future as the most powerful LOL and OW.lol

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Effluxi

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it's the perceived home field advantage, regardless of the intricatcies of if and how it actually exists. The same would happen with NA and I imagine Germany if we actually had German teams.