The biggest misunderstanding in VCT CN

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Koreymi

With the removal of S1Mon official until toronto many question EDG's management and even after the crashout described by Aqua (EDG Manager Stream) Many still think its a bad move because "S1Mon turned EDG into a world class team"

This is just not true. EDG turned out to be so good because of the igl change to nobody (this can be seen on their champs run stream) was agreed upon to the biggest reason why EDG improved so much, yes s1mon utility helped edg but he is not even close to the main reason why edg got so good. If haodong was still igling for edg for example even with s1mon I dont think edg makes it out of the champs group.

S1Mon is a pretty great utility player, but his mental is tested over and over and its shown to be pretty bad, he crumbles under pressure, chokes in big moments, now accused of not putting in the work which doesnt slide in tier 1 (unless you are jdg) and overall a little bit toxic. Doesnt help that his fragging is bottom 5 in the league.

Until S1Mon fixes these issues I think having jieni is much better. Stop with the overall glaze

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LPL_no1fan

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what crashout

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Koreymi

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Started being extremely toxic, threw his team under the bus, didnt put enough effort and created chaos within the team. 4 EDG members called him out on it

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LowGun

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https://x.com/wanshunzhi/status/1911652123781271607

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Koreymi

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Stew falls under the same boat (hence I called out jdg) but he is more of an unkown entity compared to s1mon

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hellfire

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我觉得你提stew反而削弱了你的观点
毕竟他那队整个战队都一个样

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Koreymi

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不Viva和s9跟所有的jdg选手打过，可他们直说过stew有问题。他根本不管他的队友，连联系都不去。stew他妈的igl可是s9, s9!!! CN最严格的igl可他也不能控制stew. 如果s9不行，谁能。

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thejanitor

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老九在直播说过和stew吵过架，在舰长群yygq但最后说和解了。Viva在哪里说stew有问题了，有切片吗？

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throwaway

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i feel like "putting the work in" is different region by region. 10hr days in china, 5hr days in na

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Koreymi

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Yes, chinese players are expected to work extrahard compared to the other regions, because 1 asian culture is an overworking culture and 2 china is behind and they need to catch up. Players like kangkang train relentlessly (like abo says) he is seen not sleeping grinding from morning to the next morning. (This is obviously too much for most, and just an example). So seeing a player give the bare minimum is looked down upon

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throwaway

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lowkey needs to learn english and pay check steal in na or eu, deffo allowed to be toxic there too

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Koreymi

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S1Mon prob wont leave cn, no player in cn will want to leave cn. China orgs pay much more than any org in any region

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throwaway

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do u know the numbers

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Koreymi

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no one knows the exact numbers but all I can say is a majority of the cn orgs are rich.

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z12

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s1mon top 3 util and an extremely smart player he does not deserve the bench

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Koreymi

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S1Mon is top 3 util, but thats all he is.

If you ever wanna pick up a player like him you need a superteam level teammates, and if you have superteam level teammates you are expected to work hard. S1Mon cant be a choker, have bad mental, be a bottom 3 fragger and not work hard.

He needs to get rid of at least 2 of these