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#1
dapada

what is it with today's matches?
the better teams choke their first map, first TL and now EDG is going to choke too

this is so unreal or scripted ngl

#2
mrGoudas
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Tl will be the better team when their players find even a shred of discipline

#24
Op_bolte77
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Prx be like what is discipline?

#31
AllMight
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There's discipline in their chaos

#71
SpaceFam
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They make chaos with discipline

#72
AllMight
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That's what I meant to say but I couldnt put it like you

#3
DrudaL
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and now prx going to lose another 5v3

#4
MuZe
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still coping

12-7 👻👻

#5
dapada
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you're delusional if you think TL and EDG didn't choke

#6
Goatguynut
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TL was not the better team lmao

#7
dapada
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1 round away from winning the match? lmao delusional

#10
brahianv
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TL was the better team in my opinion they just choke.

#18
dapada
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true
braindead or delusional if you think otherwise

#60
sentinelmain377
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vro downfragged cuz more north americans on the site than EMEAns

EMEA already owns in CS

and the fact that the NA vs EU is close in this game shows how bad NA is

and EMEA still winning this tourney (FNATIC)

let em enjoy this little battle

#12
Goatguynut
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And when it mattered, what team clutched when they needed to

and NRG dominated the 3rd map

#16
dapada
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ardiis, an emea player, clutched the map

#20
SigmaMale
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Can you make your baits less obvious

#22
dapada
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bro just watch the game

#25
weakest_marved_enjoyer
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i watched the game and NRG won 2-1
easily the better team lmao

#26
dapada
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delusional
ardiis clutched the map with his op

#59
weakest_marved_enjoyer
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okay so nrg is the better team. ardiis is on nrg so thats how that works

#65
33AJ
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Keep coping got 13-5 in last map kkkkkk

#8
TrialRunnr
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Ig better team lost the lock-in final too eh?

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dapada
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where is LOUD now?

#11
TrialRunnr
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same place where Lulquid is

#14
dapada
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doesn't matter
FNC will win this masters anw

#45
-morte-
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FREEMEA Coping again

#13
Waking_W
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Where liquid , navi, fut 😹

#15
dapada
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better having a 1st place team than 2 good 4th and 3rd/2nd team 😹

#28
fatdaddy
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literally a 1 team region

#37
dapada
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it doesn't matter as long as said 1 team region brings you the trophy💀

#41
fatdaddy
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we'll see if they can do that in a double elim tourney...

#43
dapada
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you can have all the good teams in the world but if it doesn't win you the tournament, what's the point really?

#68
Waking_W
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Imagine if fnatic lose tomorrow, what would you even cope you baiter 💀

#70
dapada
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bro said imagine cuz he knows fnatic won't lose against evil flukers💀

#17
NotMidUser
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TL WAS NEVER THE BETTER TEAM LMAOOO

#19
dapada
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1 round away from winning the match?

#21
NotMidUser
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Yeah, we can also say Loud was the better team than FNC then, 2 rounds away from winning the match at LOCK IN

NRG core is just more consistent, you can't say TL is the better team when they

  • Bombed out of LOCK/IN
  • lost against AMERICAS #3 seed
  • Almost lost against EDG
#23
dapada
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then where is LOUD now? its not apple to apple lmfao

#27
NotMidUser
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why shouldn't it be apple to apple?
your argument as to why liquid is better is because they were 1 round away from winning.
my argument as to why LOUD is better than FNC is because they were 2 rounds away from winning (note i'm using your argument to support my claims)
why is your argument only right when it comes to the team you support?

#32
dapada
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that's why I asked you "where is LOUD now"
you can't say LOUD is better when they bombed out of Tokyo without winning a single map lil bro 😹

#46
NotMidUser
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Are you dense? I'm just using your arguments against you??

I don't really believe Loud is better than Fnatic, I'm just saying if you truly believe in that logic, then I can bring up another case that you'd have to agree on

#49
dapada
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your argument might be true if liquid bombed out of champs later, but until then, its not apple-to-apple lil bro😹

#53
NotMidUser
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?????
I give up
No point in talking to an idiot lmao

#54
dapada
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LOUD choked against FNC -> you can argue LOUD is the better team but they choked
then LOUD bombed out of Tokyo without winning a single map -> now you can't argue LOUD is the better team because they bombed out

just switch LOUD with TL and you get my argument

#29
skatman
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counting out comebacks as an eu fans is just 🤣
both fnatic and gambit won their trophies on the back of comebacks.
a win's a win.

#34
dapada
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3-0 against Envy = "on the back of comebacks" talk about delusion 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

#38
Onyx_FPS
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Most logically coherent vlr user.

"X is better team because they were about to win and choked."
"Here's a counterexample that you'll have to concede if you really believe in that logic."
"But they're out of the tournament now." <- Shifting the goalposts.

Stop shilling. You got caught.

#58
NotMidUser
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brother shifted the goalpost from eu to na

#48
-morte-
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And lost

#50
dapada
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hence the word "choke" genius

#52
xtal
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cope more brainlet

#30
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy
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nah lil bro thinks tl was the better team

#39
dapada
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1 round away from 2-0ing NRG?

#42
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy
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if they were the better team why didnt they close it out?
if they were the better team why didnt they win ot?
if they were the better team why didnt they win map 3?

the better team is the one that wins lil bro

#44
dapada
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learn how to read, they choked

#51
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy
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if they were the better team they would not have choked
if they were the better team they wouldve won ot once they got it there
if they were the better team they wouldve mentally reset and won map 3

to be better u gotta win lil bro

#55
dapada
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bro doesn't even understand the concept of better team choking😹

#63
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy
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ive made myself pretty clear lil bro u wanna keep defending losers losing go ahead ill let the asylum know youre headed their way

#33
Dolphin
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Because they arent the best team. Hope i could solve your doubts 👍

#36
dapada
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they arent the best but they are the better team

#40
Dolphin
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Maybe they had the better gameplan yes, but being the better team includes mental and having clutch players

#47
dapada
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experience diff ig

#35
filter
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Riot working with gambling sites

#56
CowboySG2
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TL didn't know how to deal with the harbor/viper retakes. Emea literally doesn't play harbor. And NRG are still pretty new to playing the comp on haven.

#61
Sonatine
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To be honest, TL deserved to fly home. How can you lose a 12-7 lead on the opposites pick? They had it in their hands to send NRG home. And yes, Redgar played not good, but FNS also threw a lot. TL had nAts and soulcas with good performances, Sayf played not very consistent. Liquid def. could be a great team and win tournaments, but they play way too careless when it's about to get your sh*t together.

Potter said it. EU has Fnatic as currently the most insane team together with EG (she even said her players are FNC fans because they do so much pioneering work), but that's it with EU for 2023 so far. Liquid got great players, NAVI got great players, even FUT and Giants got great players... but they are throwing wayyy too much in comparison. NA teams have not the better individual players, they simply do their job better. NRG didn't let their confidence die after 7-12 - they won it. That's the mindset you need. The only Americas team that threw was LOUD. We have to accept the truth and hope EU makes it more exciting with VCT Champions in August. I also hope LOUD will come back stronger.

#69
Itsover
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poopter and her tier 2 team will get shit on by seed 5 emea at champs and by fnatic here, no more honeymoon

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