what is it with today's matches?
the better teams choke their first map, first TL and now EDG is going to choke too
this is so unreal or scripted ngl
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Goatguynut [#6]TL was not the better team lmao
1 round away from winning the match? lmao delusional
dapada [#7]1 round away from winning the match? lmao delusional
TL was the better team in my opinion they just choke.
dapada [#7]1 round away from winning the match? lmao delusional
And when it mattered, what team clutched when they needed to
and NRG dominated the 3rd map
Waking_W [#13]Where liquid , navi, fut 😹
better having a 1st place team than 2 good 4th and 3rd/2nd team 😹
Goatguynut [#12]And when it mattered, what team clutched when they needed to
and NRG dominated the 3rd map
ardiis, an emea player, clutched the map
brahianv [#10]TL was the better team in my opinion they just choke.
true
braindead or delusional if you think otherwise
dapada [#19]1 round away from winning the match?
Yeah, we can also say Loud was the better team than FNC then, 2 rounds away from winning the match at LOCK IN
NRG core is just more consistent, you can't say TL is the better team when they
- Bombed out of LOCK/IN
- lost against AMERICAS #3 seed
- Almost lost against EDG
NotMidUser [#21]Yeah, we can also say Loud was the better team than FNC then, 2 rounds away from winning the match at LOCK IN
NRG core is just more consistent, you can't say TL is the better team when they
- Bombed out of LOCK/IN
- lost against AMERICAS #3 seed
- Almost lost against EDG
then where is LOUD now? its not apple to apple lmfao
mrGoudas [#2]Tl will be the better team when their players find even a shred of discipline
Prx be like what is discipline?
weakest_marved_enjoyer [#25]i watched the game and NRG won 2-1
easily the better team lmao
delusional
ardiis clutched the map with his op
dapada [#23]then where is LOUD now? its not apple to apple lmfao
why shouldn't it be apple to apple?
your argument as to why liquid is better is because they were 1 round away from winning.
my argument as to why LOUD is better than FNC is because they were 2 rounds away from winning (note i'm using your argument to support my claims)
why is your argument only right when it comes to the team you support?
dapada [#15]better having a 1st place team than 2 good 4th and 3rd/2nd team 😹
literally a 1 team region
dapada [#23]then where is LOUD now? its not apple to apple lmfao
counting out comebacks as an eu fans is just 🤣
both fnatic and gambit won their trophies on the back of comebacks.
a win's a win.
NotMidUser [#27]why shouldn't it be apple to apple?
your argument as to why liquid is better is because they were 1 round away from winning.
my argument as to why LOUD is better than FNC is because they were 2 rounds away from winning (note i'm using your argument to support my claims)
why is your argument only right when it comes to the team you support?
that's why I asked you "where is LOUD now"
you can't say LOUD is better when they bombed out of Tokyo without winning a single map lil bro 😹
skatman [#29]counting out comebacks as an eu fans is just 🤣
both fnatic and gambit won their trophies on the back of comebacks.
a win's a win.
3-0 against Envy = "on the back of comebacks" talk about delusion 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Dolphin [#33]Because they arent the best team. Hope i could solve your doubts 👍
they arent the best but they are the better team
fatdaddy [#28]literally a 1 team region
it doesn't matter as long as said 1 team region brings you the trophy💀
dapada [#23]then where is LOUD now? its not apple to apple lmfao
Most logically coherent vlr user.
"X is better team because they were about to win and choked."
"Here's a counterexample that you'll have to concede if you really believe in that logic."
"But they're out of the tournament now." <- Shifting the goalposts.
Stop shilling. You got caught.
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#30]nah lil bro thinks tl was the better team
1 round away from 2-0ing NRG?
dapada [#36]they arent the best but they are the better team
Maybe they had the better gameplan yes, but being the better team includes mental and having clutch players
dapada [#37]it doesn't matter as long as said 1 team region brings you the trophy💀
we'll see if they can do that in a double elim tourney...
dapada [#39]1 round away from 2-0ing NRG?
if they were the better team why didnt they close it out?
if they were the better team why didnt they win ot?
if they were the better team why didnt they win map 3?
the better team is the one that wins lil bro
fatdaddy [#41]we'll see if they can do that in a double elim tourney...
you can have all the good teams in the world but if it doesn't win you the tournament, what's the point really?
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#42]if they were the better team why didnt they close it out?
if they were the better team why didnt they win ot?
if they were the better team why didnt they win map 3?the better team is the one that wins lil bro
learn how to read, they choked
dapada [#32]that's why I asked you "where is LOUD now"
you can't say LOUD is better when they bombed out of Tokyo without winning a single map lil bro 😹
Are you dense? I'm just using your arguments against you??
I don't really believe Loud is better than Fnatic, I'm just saying if you truly believe in that logic, then I can bring up another case that you'd have to agree on
Dolphin [#40]Maybe they had the better gameplan yes, but being the better team includes mental and having clutch players
experience diff ig
NotMidUser [#46]Are you dense? I'm just using your arguments against you??
I don't really believe Loud is better than Fnatic, I'm just saying if you truly believe in that logic, then I can bring up another case that you'd have to agree on
your argument might be true if liquid bombed out of champs later, but until then, its not apple-to-apple lil bro😹
dapada [#44]learn how to read, they choked
if they were the better team they would not have choked
if they were the better team they wouldve won ot once they got it there
if they were the better team they wouldve mentally reset and won map 3
to be better u gotta win lil bro
dapada [#49]your argument might be true if liquid bombed out of champs later, but until then, its not apple-to-apple lil bro😹
?????
I give up
No point in talking to an idiot lmao
NotMidUser [#53]?????
I give up
No point in talking to an idiot lmao
LOUD choked against FNC -> you can argue LOUD is the better team but they choked
then LOUD bombed out of Tokyo without winning a single map -> now you can't argue LOUD is the better team because they bombed out
just switch LOUD with TL and you get my argument
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#51]if they were the better team they would not have choked
if they were the better team they wouldve won ot once they got it there
if they were the better team they wouldve mentally reset and won map 3to be better u gotta win lil bro
bro doesn't even understand the concept of better team choking😹
dapada [#54]LOUD choked against FNC -> you can argue LOUD is the better team but they choked
then LOUD bombed out of Tokyo without winning a single map -> now you can't argue LOUD is the better team because they bombed outjust switch LOUD with TL and you get my argument
my guy lost the plot. your argument in no way is logically sound. How are you going to bring in future events that has never happened and is entirely dependent on luck.
Onyx_FPS [#38]Most logically coherent vlr user.
"X is better team because they were about to win and choked."
"Here's a counterexample that you'll have to concede if you really believe in that logic."
"But they're out of the tournament now." <- Shifting the goalposts.Stop shilling. You got caught.
brother shifted the goalpost from eu to na
dapada [#26]delusional
ardiis clutched the map with his op
okay so nrg is the better team. ardiis is on nrg so thats how that works
brahianv [#10]TL was the better team in my opinion they just choke.
vro downfragged cuz more north americans on the site than EMEAns
EMEA already owns in CS
and the fact that the NA vs EU is close in this game shows how bad NA is
and EMEA still winning this tourney (FNATIC)
let em enjoy this little battle
To be honest, TL deserved to fly home. How can you lose a 12-7 lead on the opposites pick? They had it in their hands to send NRG home. And yes, Redgar played not good, but FNS also threw a lot. TL had nAts and soulcas with good performances, Sayf played not very consistent. Liquid def. could be a great team and win tournaments, but they play way too careless when it's about to get your sh*t together.
Potter said it. EU has Fnatic as currently the most insane team together with EG (she even said her players are FNC fans because they do so much pioneering work), but that's it with EU for 2023 so far. Liquid got great players, NAVI got great players, even FUT and Giants got great players... but they are throwing wayyy too much in comparison. NA teams have not the better individual players, they simply do their job better. NRG didn't let their confidence die after 7-12 - they won it. That's the mindset you need. The only Americas team that threw was LOUD. We have to accept the truth and hope EU makes it more exciting with VCT Champions in August. I also hope LOUD will come back stronger.
NotMidUser [#57]my guy lost the plot. your argument in no way is logically sound. How are you going to bring in future events that has never happened and is entirely dependent on luck.
are you dumb?
your claim is "my argument as to why LOUD is better than FNC is because they were 2 rounds away from winning" THIS COULD BE TRUE BEFORE TOKYO RESULTS in which LOUD bombed out without winning a single map
dapada [#55]bro doesn't even understand the concept of better team choking😹
ive made myself pretty clear lil bro u wanna keep defending losers losing go ahead ill let the asylum know youre headed their way
dapada [#62]are you dumb?
your claim is "my argument as to why LOUD is better than FNC is because they were 2 rounds away from winning" THIS COULD BE TRUE BEFORE TOKYO RESULTS in which LOUD bombed out without winning a single map
Then you'd just invalid your entire argument. You can't say liquid is the better team until champs lmao
the entire reason why'd I even argue "LOUD is better than FNC is because they were 2 rounds away from winning" is to point out how dumb your argument that "TL is better than NRG is because they were 1 round away from winning" is
dapada [#7]1 round away from winning the match? lmao delusional
Keep coping got 13-5 in last map kkkkkk
NotMidUser [#64]Then you'd just invalid your entire argument. You can't say liquid is the better team until champs lmao
the entire reason why'd I even argue "LOUD is better than FNC is because they were 2 rounds away from winning" is to point out how dumb your argument that "TL is better than NRG is because they were 1 round away from winning" is
ignore him bruh, he is just baiting
NotMidUser [#64]Then you'd just invalid your entire argument. You can't say liquid is the better team until champs lmao
the entire reason why'd I even argue "LOUD is better than FNC is because they were 2 rounds away from winning" is to point out how dumb your argument that "TL is better than NRG is because they were 1 round away from winning" is
BRO ASDFGAGAHAHASAD
ITS CALLED AN ARGUMENT FOR A REASON BECAUSE IT IS NOT A FACT YET
ARE U DUMB?????????????
dapada [#43]you can have all the good teams in the world but if it doesn't win you the tournament, what's the point really?
Imagine if fnatic lose tomorrow, what would you even cope you baiter 💀
Sonatine [#61]To be honest, TL deserved to fly home. How can you lose a 12-7 lead on the opposites pick? They had it in their hands to send NRG home. And yes, Redgar played not good, but FNS also threw a lot. TL had nAts and soulcas with good performances, Sayf played not very consistent. Liquid def. could be a great team and win tournaments, but they play way too careless when it's about to get your sh*t together.
Potter said it. EU has Fnatic as currently the most insane team together with EG (she even said her players are FNC fans because they do so much pioneering work), but that's it with EU for 2023 so far. Liquid got great players, NAVI got great players, even FUT and Giants got great players... but they are throwing wayyy too much in comparison. NA teams have not the better individual players, they simply do their job better. NRG didn't let their confidence die after 7-12 - they won it. That's the mindset you need. The only Americas team that threw was LOUD. We have to accept the truth and hope EU makes it more exciting with VCT Champions in August. I also hope LOUD will come back stronger.
poopter and her tier 2 team will get shit on by seed 5 emea at champs and by fnatic here, no more honeymoon
Waking_W [#68]Imagine if fnatic lose tomorrow, what would you even cope you baiter 💀
bro said imagine cuz he knows fnatic won't lose against evil flukers💀
SpaceFam [#71]They make chaos with discipline
That's what I meant to say but I couldnt put it like you
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