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WHY HATE CHINA???

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#1
bobkiller

WHY HATE ON CHINA TEAMS??? GENUINE QUESTION

im chinese btw

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Nachtel
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i love life

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Acyclovir
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I heckin love life

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chick
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Life is so hot man

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emirerays
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Not hate but getting 2 slots for tokyo and 3 for champions kinda unfair to the other teams. Competition is not as advanced as other regions.

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filter
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Navi flag ๐Ÿคฃ

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Warlordwibz
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some westerners just don't like their region gets treated equally with China/Asia in general in terms of slot. They like to feel superior by getting the privilege extra slot for their ego.

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Blanc_cataloq
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What equal you waffling? Whole asia got 3 slots, while china have 2 DIRECT slot and 3 on champs. Pig

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Warlordwibz
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for 16 team tournaments like Champs, u want every tournament to have 12 teams where 4 teams go playoff everytime?

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Sikul
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better than 3 Chinese teams

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Warlordwibz
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Show your breakdown of 16 EQUAL-REGION slots alternative then.

#25
Blanc_cataloq
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Imagine having only 16 slot and give 3 to china(1 team country) ๐Ÿ˜‚
Im wasting my energy to type so you understand it correctly Michael...

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Blanc_cataloq
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Im not arguing about the slot numbers. It's the fckin "SLOT DISTRIBUTION" imaging giving one country 2direct slot, with 0-3 international record. While whole asia only have 3 ๐Ÿ˜‚. You get my point? ๐Ÿ˜†

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it's unfortunate the 2 or 3 China slots were removed from 2021 Asia LCQ then, If china was introduced early in 2021 instead of 2022, China could've had their league in 2022 and maybe get their franchise in 2023 just like everyone else then. At least china most likely gonna get their franchise next year, so no one will complain 2024 every region will make the 16 team international turney.

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You still don't understand...im ok giving china 3 slot, but they need to fight for it first... Did you notice China is the only region(country) with direct slots? Not 1 but 2 ๐Ÿคฏ

Yes China don't have franchise but they're the owner ๐Ÿ˜‚

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they need to fight for it first

  1. they lost their opportunity in APAC LCQ 2021 (2 China teams got removed).
  2. 2 China teams fighting for 1 slot in East Asia LCQ 2022 (No direct slot here, have to fight JP + KR teams).

Thats 1 opportunity to qualify for international tournaments in 2 WHOLE years. (0 Direct Slot)

Now:
FGC VALORANT Invitational 2023: Act 1 (for 2 slots)
FGC VALORANT Invitational 2023: Act 2 extra turney
Valorant Champions 2023: China Qualifier (16 team Swiss Format turney for the 1 last spot in champions)

what more do they have to fight for?

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Blanc_cataloq
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Well. Oce and other regions doesn't have that fancy. Missing 2 years of competition doesn't give you right to have 2 direct slots ๐Ÿ˜‚

Imagine the blood and tears other teams(better than EDG/ASE) fight for single qualification And..... there's china ๐Ÿ˜†
Ez backdoors

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Warlordwibz
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I do feel bad for OCE and especially MENA

OCE have their teams removed in 2021 LCQ as well, because they were integrated to NA. Also OCE would've got a franchise slot if ORDER didn't filed bankruptcy. OCE geographical area and player base just really isn't favourable and should be more integrated to Asia.

MENA should also be more integrated into EU more, the representation there is very lacking, but EMEA is too western heavy and just gave up on them.

China in general have contributed so much into Asia E-sports in general, even you should be happy with China involvement in Asia valorant for international events onwards. Luckily this is riot, they're not giving western teams extra slots unlike other games, it gives balance slots for Asia and western teams.

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Blanc_cataloq
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That's what I'm sayinnn. China so popular in esports that riot gave them 2 direct slot... How's that even "treat equally" ....
๐Ÿ˜‚ them teams aren't even good blud

#31
VEDANtt
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US has 5 slots in their League ๐Ÿ‘€ I guess that man. Is right

#35
danii1
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so butthurt

#27
Ullyr
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W take

#29
soraol
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true

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asd7
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Westerners in general don't like chinese people but mask the hate as "hating the government"
its really common here you just have to deal with it

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Because they are braindead. โ€œOh noooo a team we donโ€™t know about has free spot. Weโ€™re scared they are gonna dominate the game soon ๐Ÿฅบโ€

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hushfps
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no one cares about dominate but its weird that they get free 3 slots, 1 slot should be good but their region haven't proven enough on big stage against international teams so why already such bias?

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Nachtel
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I do think it's definitely weird, riot didn't even try to justify it, they just kinda did it and said next to nothing about it.

I don't hate the chinese teams, and I think everyone's underrating them, but I can understand the animosity coming from people annoyed that their favorite team had to fight tooth and nail to maybe not even qualify to tokyo while two teams in china just get a free pass in a less competitive region

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Cresp
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๐Ÿธ

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Dybala21
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People hate not because theyโ€™re chinese, itโ€™s because of the slots given for champs

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yawnster
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Na is still sore from having their ass handed to them by every chinese team they face. They're scared china is gonna make na irrelevant in another game ๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น

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brobeans
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Why is the whole thread baiters

#13
Foccuz
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cause they are afraid of his beloved team loss to some china team

#14
adilKhan
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Because Chinese teams basically get a free pass for Masters and Champions while other teams have to work their butts off to get there. It's kinda unfair if you ask me. Moreover the Chinese teams (maybe other than EDG) are bad and don't deserve to play in a high-stakes international tournament.
At least Riot could've included one Chinese org in franchising instead of 3 Korean teams

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ZhangWei
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Western people hates china bcs of free slots but also they call chinese teams as "TRASH". If chinese teams are trash then why are they mad china been given free slots? Isn't that the best case for them so their teams can advance easily after defeating a chinese team? These people just hates China in general but mask it with the overused and old excuse of "we don't hate chinese ppl, we just hate the government" so pay them no heed and just ignore them

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zongolodongo
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its not the teams, its mostly riot that gives 2 free slots at masters that could have been gifted to better teams. I would prefer c9 and geng over this 2 chinese teams, or they could give it to ascencion teams too idk.

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Rebellion2408
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I think the hate is because they're given free slots while other region teams have to like fight for the spots. But I don't hate it too much cause in a way it helps these teams who qualify to get more exposure to these tournaments and improve their scene and also viewerships so I don't hate it too much.

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smizuu
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(ignored my england) i think ppl dont like cause most teams need to be franchised to be in master or champions but china also got 3 slot teams to champs same like other franchised it just not fair for other region cause they need to work hard and defeated s tier teams to got slot for master and champs but china just need to play in A-B tier to got slot for master and champs (ALSO IT DOESNT MATTER IF CHINA STRONG REGION OR NOT CAUSE THE FACT IS THEY NOT A FRANCHISED TEAMS SO WHY THEY GOT SAME SLOT LIKE OTHER FRANCHISED TEAMS ITS NOT FAIR , THIS IS MY POINT)

#21
Ullyr
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China will clear everyone in 2 years don't worry.

#22
p1ay2ac3
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Because of the "Special Treatment" Riot gives to the region.

#28
LycheeBlade
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Everyone's complaining about China getting 2 spots for Masters and 3 for Champs, but my question is why doesn't Riot increase the number of teams per tournament? Why 12 teams for Masters and not 16? With more slots (say one more per region, and the last one can be given to a team based on a certain metric idk) then I don't think people would be complaining nearly as much about China "stealing" slots.

I know that it's Riot's intention to increase tourney sizes as franchising grows, but I feel like even now a 16-team Masters and a 20/22-team Champs would see a lot more competition, viewership, and obviously money

#34
Ic4rusYam2
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I'm from taiwan

#36
UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe
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nobody hates china
people hate riot

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seffcurry
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i would love to see c9 and giants rather than boring china teams ngl

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