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Big L for emea esport

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#1
edelhose1337

Emea esport is in a horrible state for some reasons:

  • Still a big lack of tournaments and games. Guild for example didnt played for a month now.
  • No offline events
  • No third party events
  • Horrible viewership
  • No more team in Masters 1, the only offline event
  • Only 3 Slots for Champions (asia 6)
  • Russians cant help out, because they will not be able to visit masters 2 and champions.

Do u thing this points will kill valorant esport in europe?

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Giannero
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It won't, even because eventually riot will do events in countries that allow russians

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kocunar
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Lol

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Basedobserver
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EU teams got over-confident and Fnatic just got super unlucky . In my honest opinion , Fnatic would've cruised through all the teams here on LAN except LOUD maybe . Remember Derke on LAN is literally better than any player they would've potentially faced this event .

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0 spots for mena

Btw mena is 3 letters from EMEA hahahaha clowns

#6
VetrezZ
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No. Just wait :)

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Giannero
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Styling911 [#5]

0 spots for mena

Btw mena is 3 letters from EMEA hahahaha clowns

MENA is trash lol

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WinterZ
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Styling911 [#5]

0 spots for mena

Btw mena is 3 letters from EMEA hahahaha clowns

MENA dont deserve any spots other than LCQ and VRL as of now. They need to prove that they are good enough to get a spot in VCT

BTW the A in 'EMEA' stands for Africa you dingleberry. EMEA = Europe, Middle East and Africa

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WinterZ [#8]

MENA dont deserve any spots other than LCQ and VRL as of now. They need to prove that they are good enough to get a spot in VCT

BTW the A in 'EMEA' stands for Africa you dingleberry. EMEA = Europe, Middle East and Africa

Stop mentioning me when your dumb dude
MENA has africa in it

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Styling911
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Giannero [#7]

MENA is trash lol

Jp were trash 6 months ago
You forgot?

#11
Thunder1
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Styling911 [#10]

Jp were trash 6 months ago
You forgot?

Still trash for 2-3 more year

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Styling911
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Thunder1 [#11]

Still trash for 2-3 more year

Says OCE who MENA would clapp their ass

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yuri_tarded
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Styling911 [#5]

0 spots for mena

Btw mena is 3 letters from EMEA hahahaha clowns

MENA is a new CIS, so many transfers rumours about CIS players in MENA teams. Lets see how it will work

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WinterZ
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Styling911 [#9]

Stop mentioning me when your dumb dude
MENA has africa in it

MENA = Middle East, NORTH Africa. It's only north Africa in MENA whereas in EMEA it's the entirety of Africa you tool. And you're one to talk about my stupidity when you just mixed up the words "your" and "you're"

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Styling911
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yuri_tarded [#13]

MENA is a new CIS, so many transfers rumours about CIS players in MENA teams. Lets see how it will work

No top players
Just porpu
And they had IVY roster last split and they got clapped

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Styling911
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WinterZ [#14]

MENA = Middle East, NORTH Africa. It's only north Africa in MENA whereas in EMEA it's the entirety of Africa you tool. And you're one to talk about my stupidity when you just mixed up the words "your" and "you're"

Go read rule book for EMEA they consider north africa as africa

Like i said stop mentioning me dog

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yungbasel
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Styling911 [#5]

0 spots for mena

Btw mena is 3 letters from EMEA hahahaha clowns

MENA qualifies through EMEA. They team that was anubis (best team in MENA last year) playing under a different name this year, got slammed in open qualifiers.

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WinterZ
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Styling911 [#16]

Go read rule book for EMEA they consider north africa as africa

Like i said stop mentioning me dog

bitch North Africa is a PART of Africa. It is not AFRICA itself. And the EMEA acronym is not specific to val you actual humbug

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Styling911
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yungbasel [#17]

MENA qualifies through EMEA. They team that was anubis (best team in MENA last year) playing under a different name this year, got slammed in open qualifiers.

Stop saying MENA qualify through EMEA when they have to go through 1000 layers of qualifiers + play on shit ping because riot wont fly them out to somewhere decent when they qualify like promotions

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WinterZ
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yungbasel [#17]

MENA qualifies through EMEA. They team that was anubis (best team in MENA last year) playing under a different name this year, got slammed in open qualifiers.

Thats what im tryna tell him but he's just delusional

#21
Styling911
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WinterZ [#18]

bitch North Africa is a PART of Africa. It is not AFRICA itself. And the EMEA acronym is not specific to val you actual humbug

Im not gonna waste my time with you. Africa has no server and no representation so shut the fuck

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patuj
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0/8 EMEA is in really good state. Bunch of competitive high tier teams. Best and most likely most healthy tier 2 scene out of any region. Decent viewership. More big profile orgs joining in etc.

#23
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patuj [#22]

0/8 EMEA is in really good state. Bunch of competitive high tier teams. Best and most likely most healthy tier 2 scene out of any region. Decent viewership. More big profile orgs joining in etc.

Tier2 is not good at all unless you play in Spanish / French / Turkish VRLs, which have the most engagement with domestic esports fanbases

These will keep on grabbing the best Nordics / East / CIS talents since the latter leagues are not popular by any means

For example East is already done, Awaria disbanded, Anonymo kicked by org and subsequently disbanded, Gamerland kicked by org and 2/5 left, Finest about to disband

#24
idkbro
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LOL no, this is not true at all

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patuj
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Olofboost [#23]

Tier2 is not good at all unless you play in Spanish / French / Turkish VRLs, which have the most engagement with domestic esports fanbases

These will keep on grabbing the best Nordics / East / CIS talents since the latter leagues are not popular by any means

For example East is already done, Awaria disbanded, Anonymo kicked by org and subsequently disbanded, Gamerland kicked by org and 2/5 left, Finest about to disband

Its still better than most regions. Only NA might be better if they get paid well, but even then they don't have similar promotion leagues etc. Its far from "good", but that is just how tier 2 usually works.

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Giannero [#2]

It won't, even because eventually riot will do events in countries that allow russians

out of all Europe, Valorant is the smallest in Russia. It would take a miracle to turn 99% of the CIS from Csgo, they are pretty much the only ones keeping the games playerbase alive

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queueK
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Horrible viewership

250k peak for challengers is great

#28
chloeburbank
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asia 6?????? are u dumb? its only 4

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atid555
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chloeburbank [#28]

asia 6?????? are u dumb? its only 4

6 for Champion
2 APAC
1 Korea
1 Japan
1 Last chance APAC North
1 Last chance APAC South

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Basedobserver [#4]

EU teams got over-confident and Fnatic just got super unlucky . In my honest opinion , Fnatic would've cruised through all the teams here on LAN except LOUD maybe . Remember Derke on LAN is literally better than any player they would've potentially faced this event .

for some reason boaster is getting disrespect as an IGL as well which I don't get

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Mortadelo
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Why are the 3 first points the same, what do the slots have to do with the state of the scene, and what do you want us to do if there is a war? I get the viewership but that’s about it

#32
Ibis
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I don’t know about that one edelhose. Viewership is great for EMEA vct

#33
sKi
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Ibis [#32]

I don’t know about that one edelhose. Viewership is great for EMEA vct

NO APAC match viewership is higher and it doesn't change the fact that EMEA is washed.

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Styling911 [#19]

Stop saying MENA qualify through EMEA when they have to go through 1000 layers of qualifiers + play on shit ping because riot wont fly them out to somewhere decent when they qualify like promotions

esports is a business my friend.

if teams dont have the resources to put themselves in a location to have a half decent chance, then guess what.....

...IT'S A HOBBY AND THEY AIN'T PROS. Even an Indian team managed to send their team over to APAC for challengers play offs. Just to go 0-2. It happens, it's the game.

You're also wrong about 1000s of layers of qualifiers, they can literally register for opens in EU opens. they dont have to do anything in strike arabia or whatever layers you think exist. It was made clear at the start of the year.

it's pretty 1 head to think riot is gonna fly teams out for OPEN QUALIFIERS

#35
Ibis
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sKi [#33]

NO APAC match viewership is higher and it doesn't change the fact that EMEA is washed.

EMEA vct league peaked 240k and had several matches > 200k

#36
DELUSIONAL_NUKKYE_FAN
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Styling911 [#5]

0 spots for mena

Btw mena is 3 letters from EMEA hahahaha clowns

mena did have a spot at VCT promotion, but they didn't get past play-ins

#37
edelhose1337
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Ibis [#32]

I don’t know about that one edelhose. Viewership is great for EMEA vct

I mean the most leagues had 500-1000 viewer. While in na tier 2 matches had the 10x amount of viewer.

Like tsm LUL cap

#38
edelhose1337
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queueK [#27]

Horrible viewership

250k peak for challengers is great

It was meant for the tier 2 matches. A lot of leagues had 500-1000 viewer.

#39
edelhose1337
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Mortadelo [#31]

Why are the 3 first points the same, what do the slots have to do with the state of the scene, and what do you want us to do if there is a war? I get the viewership but that’s about it

top 4-10 emea teams don't have the chance to get a lot of earnings and international attention. Imagine heroic or Astralis in csgo don't have the chance to play offline because the don't reach top 3 emea. Like guild or m3c in this case

#40
Leatherface
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all these can be said about NA as well

#41
chloeburbank
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atid555 [#29]

6 for Champion
2 APAC
1 Korea
1 Japan
1 Last chance APAC North
1 Last chance APAC South

oh my bad

#42
commonW
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edelhose1337 [#39]

top 4-10 emea teams don't have the chance to get a lot of earnings and international attention. Imagine heroic or Astralis in csgo don't have the chance to play offline because the don't reach top 3 emea. Like guild or m3c in this case

same in NA, when was the last time c9 and v1 played?
big L for NA esport as well

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indi_getrektson [#26]

out of all Europe, Valorant is the smallest in Russia. It would take a miracle to turn 99% of the CIS from Csgo, they are pretty much the only ones keeping the games playerbase alive

Huh? Danes, sweds, baltics are playing more cs than val

#44
Mortadelo
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edelhose1337 [#39]

top 4-10 emea teams don't have the chance to get a lot of earnings and international attention. Imagine heroic or Astralis in csgo don't have the chance to play offline because the don't reach top 3 emea. Like guild or m3c in this case

But how is that just an EU problem? And that doesn’t change the fact that you said the same in three different ways to make it sound like it’s worse lmao

#45
Hasbulla
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Styling911 [#12]

Says OCE who MENA would clapp their ass

Didn't MENA have a chance to go through the promotions tournament?

#46
wizardbot
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Olofboost [#23]

Tier2 is not good at all unless you play in Spanish / French / Turkish VRLs, which have the most engagement with domestic esports fanbases

These will keep on grabbing the best Nordics / East / CIS talents since the latter leagues are not popular by any means

For example East is already done, Awaria disbanded, Anonymo kicked by org and subsequently disbanded, Gamerland kicked by org and 2/5 left, Finest about to disband

Dach is in a decent state too, BIG FOKUS Wave Mouz all have decent fanbase. Although both big and fokus are in the big leaguge now

#47
tonyhart7
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EMEA WITH CIS = 100% Power
EMEA WITHOUT CIS = 60% Power

#48
Styling911
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yungbasel [#34]

esports is a business my friend.

if teams dont have the resources to put themselves in a location to have a half decent chance, then guess what.....

...IT'S A HOBBY AND THEY AIN'T PROS. Even an Indian team managed to send their team over to APAC for challengers play offs. Just to go 0-2. It happens, it's the game.

You're also wrong about 1000s of layers of qualifiers, they can literally register for opens in EU opens. they dont have to do anything in strike arabia or whatever layers you think exist. It was made clear at the start of the year.

it's pretty 1 head to think riot is gonna fly teams out for OPEN QUALIFIERS

fly them for promotion when they qualified

not for opens

#49
rtyjrdtesh
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EMEA should have 2 slots I thought they are good

#50
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Basedobserver [#4]

EU teams got over-confident and Fnatic just got super unlucky . In my honest opinion , Fnatic would've cruised through all the teams here on LAN except LOUD maybe . Remember Derke on LAN is literally better than any player they would've potentially faced this event .

They wouldn't cruise throught shit lmao

#51
edelhose1337
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Mortadelo [#44]

But how is that just an EU problem? And that doesn’t change the fact that you said the same in three different ways to make it sound like it’s worse lmao

Bro u have to Sound dramatic, so u get attention on the problem 😂

#52
Ibis
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edelhose1337 [#37]

I mean the most leagues had 500-1000 viewer. While in na tier 2 matches had the 10x amount of viewer.

Like tsm LUL cap

DACH peaked 20k in final

#53
5headtakes
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Basedobserver [#4]

EU teams got over-confident and Fnatic just got super unlucky . In my honest opinion , Fnatic would've cruised through all the teams here on LAN except LOUD maybe . Remember Derke on LAN is literally better than any player they would've potentially faced this event .

I don't think EU teams got over-confident at all. TL weren't even expecting to play and they still put up a decent performance in hindsight. Fnatic as you said got unlucky. G2 just got outplayed by regions who are fast improving, nothing about their performance looked like them being over-confident. People trying to take away from EMEA as a region after this can do so, but it's undeniable that the tournament would play out differently if FPX were able to come, and Fnatic could play the roster they've been practicing with.

I think saying EU got over-confident takes away from the fact that other regions have improved vastly.

#54
Rangel21
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Eu without cis = KEKW

#55
Mortadelo
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edelhose1337 [#51]

Bro u have to Sound dramatic, so u get attention on the problem 😂

Trust me, 4K posts teach you a lot about how to manipulate people xDD

#56
yuri_tarded
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Styling911 [#15]

No top players
Just porpu
And they had IVY roster last split and they got clapped

lol

#57
Styling911
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yuri_tarded [#56]

lol

? still long way to go

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