Explaining the Guild-G2-Acend confusion

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minte

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/859221046368141332/952598080807645294/unknown.png

If there's a two way tie, it's dependent on head to head. If Acend and G2 both lose their games, it's a tie, and the tiebreaker is the 2-1 series that Acend beat G2 on.
If there's a three way tie, where Guild loses to both G2 and Fnatic, aswell as Acend beating BBL - it's a round difference tiebreaker between the three teams, two best qualify.

edit; incorrect information, post #31 for info/sort of apology or whatever, common mintvalo L

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round difference is the tiebreaker even if it’s a 2 way tie

https://imgur.com/a/4bqArY4
why is g2 above acend rn if head to head match up matters

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Because of vlr admins

#4

minte

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2way ties are always head to head

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Same happened with the Spanish vrl and it was wrong, I’m pretty sure it’s head to head

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minte

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yeah exactly, KOI-case i believe (may be wrong)

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it makes sense to display teams based on their round difference after their game record.

it is H2H for 2-way tiebreakers - check the rules.

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Becuase G2 has 3 wins while Accend has 2 wins 3head

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NA moment

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simza

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thank you sir

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Thank you brother

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Is there any official statement: head to head or rounds difference?

#11

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Big mintvalo W .

Thanks!

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pokedyo

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W post thx

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x_t1x

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EDIT okay nwm

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Bullshit, fake info

Round difference is not a tiebreaker for 3 way tie, map difference is

If Fnatic>Guild and Acend>BBL, Guild out because they have the least maps won/lost ratio against G2 and Acend (3-2 teams)

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source?

#16

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It was always by map difference in all tournaments in all esports

VLR admins are showing round diff for some fucking reason, hence making you believe that it's the tiebreaker

OP also has no source for his theory either

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relatively new to following vct, only source i had was acend coach Milan
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/952655949313761290/952655959224885369/unknown.png

apologies though! mb :)

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^^^^^^
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This guy knows

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Sarcasm or fr ?

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ValdemieGC

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For real.

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W coach good luck

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Qualify teams

ACE lose:
FNC, GUILD, G2

ACE win and FNC lose: 2 tiebreaker (ACE, G2)
Head-to-head match score: ACE won against G2
FNC, GUILD, ACE

ACE win and FNC win: 3 tiebreaker (GUILD, ACE, G2)
Head-to-head match score: all teams 1 win 1 loss
Head-to-head map differential Guild -1, ACE ±0, G2 +1
FNC, G2, ACE

Am I correct?

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Looks correct to me

#27

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thx :)

#28

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So Acend is in playoffs today if they win against BBL no matter what happens in FNC vs GUILD

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x_t1x

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Guild - Acend 37-26
G2 - Acend 27-33
G2 - Guild 26-16

G2 53-49 +4
Guild 53-52 +1
Acend 59-64 -5

this is round diffrence in this trio but i guess map diffrence is more important

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You're wrong. You have to consider the map differential first in the three-way tie. Guild will be out of playoffs assuming they lose against FNC and Acend wins against BBL.

G2 = +1 map diff (G2 2 - 0 Guild, G2 1 - 2 Acend)
Acend = 0 map diff (Acend 1 - 2 Guild, Acend 2 - 1 G2)
Guild = -1 map diff (Guild 0 - 2 G2, Guild 2 - 1 Acend)

Source: VCT EMEA Rulebook - 2022
In the event that two or more Teams are tied in the standings at the conclusion of the Regular Season, the tie will be broken by the following criteria:

Head-to-head match score
Head-to-head map differential
Head-to-head round differential
Overall map differential
Overall round differential