The level of na t2 make me really doubt if cane really was a generational talent. 😭😭😭😭
Na fans told me this m80 team is top 4/5 of americas 😭😭😭😭😭😭
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More like every T2 is bad and EMEA T2 have good T1 players with generational talents.
canezerra is literally just a ranked demon
he doesnt stand out statistically in actual pro play
he plays braindead af because it works for ranked
if the top tier 1 duelists were grinding ranked all day like him playing like idiots they would also be top leaderboard players
he is obviously talented but there are already 10 canezerras in tier 1 that just don't grind ranked anymore and don't spam their clips on twitter
Bro na will hate me but cane could just turn into a dante in t1.
He's braindead, just like Dante ngl
he doesnt stand out statistically in actual pro play
He legit put up 1.33 ratings TWICE back to back for 2 stages (2025 stage 1 and 2), topping the leaderboards against an obviously MUCH better NA T2 (TSM - Timotino, Vora - who are now in a top 3 vct americas team, Skuba, Brawk etc.)
He is legit the best T2 player, statistically.
For a comparison, the TOP 2 teams last year didn't lose to any of the SA Ascension teams, heck, NV (2nd seed) even 13-0ed one team in LAN, and the SA teams almost had same/similar player as 2G (this year) that SRB lost to/struggled against LMAO
NA T2 just bad this year, move on.
kyu put up a better rating in playoffs (vs actually good tier 2 teams instead of the plumber teams)
he got backpacked by eggster in ascension
he had a mid stage 3 when it actually mattered for ascension
yes he is obviously an incredibly talented player but genuinely you act like a 0.05 rating differential over fucking SRG dodonut makes him god in valorant
he is not 10x better than a tier 1 duelist, it isn't even close to that
2025 na tier 2 is arguably just as bad if not worse than 2026 tier 2
if you want to make an argument that this guy is 10x better than a good tier 1 player then I am gonna have to see this guy play in tier 1 and dominate before I believe it
Let me make it clear, I obviously don't believe that "Cane is 10x better than mada or even any T2 player" LMAO, that's either a hyperbole or just pure ragebait.
I am arguing against your claim that "cane doesn't stand out statistically in actual pro play" that you are commenting around which is just OBJECTIVELY WRONG STATISCALLY, on the contrary, he maybe the best T2 player, statistically.
he got backpacked by eggster in ascension
Yes, he had a bad group stage (He was sick but no excuse) but then he went on to own and TOP leaderboards in the playoffs, "when it actually mattered" (Your own logic btw).
he had a mid stage 3 when it actually mattered for ascension
Imagine having a "Mid" stage 3 but still ~ top 10 and above almost all the current M80 and SRB players LMAO what a downfall.
2025 na tier 2 is arguably just as bad if not worse than 2026 tier 2
RAGEBAIT? The current top 3 STATISTCALLY best players across all 3 stages i.e. Boni, Fireballops and Nismo were not even Top 10 or Top 15 last year (averaging across all stages), legit hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby.
you act like a 0.05 rating differential over fucking SRG dodonut makes him god in valorant
OMG BRO SRSLY? DO YOU NOT WHAT "SAMPLE SIZE"/"BIAS" IS??? and you are here talking about some "statistically" LMAO can't make ts up but it's vlr so wtv.
You are comparing ratings b/w 88 vs 434 rounds that too in a group stage. Even the unspoken min. threshold is 100 rounds at least and you are way below that.
kyu put up a better rating in playoffs
I genuinely couldn't find this, not that it really matters but still do let me know what stage?
vs actually good tier 2 teams instead of the plumber teams
pfft HHAHAHAH
Finishing it off with, Most of the points you made were ambiguous, disingenuous with nothing to do with STATISTICS and based on feelings/bias so if you want to counter me, do it STATISTCIALLY as you claimed and before that, please google what it means.
if cane was actually playing he would've won because yknow he would've played for envy
there is no good evidence supporting any of this
even last year at ascension he got backpacked in the group stage when he almost cost envy a playoff spot
like he's talented but i fear nothing that really makes him stand out compared to other hot prospects
He plays like meathead for 12 hours a day and farm cool clips. Ppl see these clips and thought he is him.
no he is actually talented but between a player like oxy and him there is genuinely not an insane difference in skill
if oxy was grinding ranked like canezerra was he would be dominating the ranked leaderboards too
canezerra is just a talented player, and there are a billion more talented players already in tier 1 that don't play ranked all day
NA tier 2 is bad but let's be real, cane was good, mechanically different, if only he wasn't an immature turd
tbf last years t2 was better in NA but also i kinda agree that cane wouldn't have been as good as people say, definitely worse than peak keznit
Well Cane did also beat the coach and two players who have made 100T into an actual top tier team. So its really just a difference in level of talent this year compared to last.
T2 last year > T2 this year a lot of previous teams dropped out of the program (TSM for example)
Cane is a generational talent, sad that he got banned or else we woulda seen him this stage
This thread is giving me actual brain damage how can people actually believe this
It should be a perm ban to even include “Dante” in the same sentence as Cane
Why? Cane is obviously more talented but dante was a demon in t2 too bro.
Dante is a braindead and cane too
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