Agent Changes I NEED

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WjFROST
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Buff Cypher Trips

Bring Yoru back to what it was at Santiago and before that

Give vyse her info flash back

Increase Raze Roomba duration

Give Jett 2 Updrafts and make her right click better

Buff Waylay

RECHARGE MISSILES PLEASE G2 NEEDS A TROPHY JUST DO IT FOR ONE EVENT I BEG

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he4venn
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bro saved the best for last LOL

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WjFROST
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he4venn [#2]

bro saved the best for last LOL

lil cherry on top

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azert
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buff cypher (before TenZ patch)
no range limit for kj
vyse just like when she was released
jett 2 updraft
tejo 60s cooldown
sova fade 40s cooldown, fade ult buff breach befofe TenZ patch skye 50s cooldown
Yoru before TenZ patch
omen smokes oneway buff
miks rework
ping system buff (before patch 9.11)

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WjFROST
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azert [#4]

buff cypher (before TenZ patch)
no range limit for kj
vyse just like when she was released
jett 2 updraft
tejo 60s cooldown
sova fade 40s cooldown, fade ult buff breach befofe TenZ patch skye 50s cooldown
Yoru before TenZ patch
omen smokes oneway buff
miks rework
ping system buff (before patch 9.11)

First ever good Asshurt post

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WjFROST [#5]

First ever good Asshurt post

not the first but ty

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satoluvr
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azert [#4]

buff cypher (before TenZ patch)
no range limit for kj
vyse just like when she was released
jett 2 updraft
tejo 60s cooldown
sova fade 40s cooldown, fade ult buff breach befofe TenZ patch skye 50s cooldown
Yoru before TenZ patch
omen smokes oneway buff
miks rework
ping system buff (before patch 9.11)

jett 2 updrafts not needed tbh

#8
inuis
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none of these agents need changing

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satoluvr [#7]

jett 2 updrafts not needed tbh

not needed but i want 2 updraft

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inuis [#8]

none of these agents need changing

your master is t0nz

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TM06Nick
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Just a formula to make g2 good 😭😭😭

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Melloaw
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neon 2 slides also

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satoluvr
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azert [#9]

not needed but i want 2 updraft

Noo, then all the jett demons will kill me from ridiculous angles and ill break my monitor

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satoluvr [#13]

Noo, then all the jett demons will kill me from ridiculous angles and ill break my monitor

Please 😢

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WjFROST
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Melloaw [#12]

neon 2 slides also

Ban this guy

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Nigellomeister
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sonion g2 lost when tejo was prime

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inuis
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azert [#10]

your master is t0nz

azert

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one
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Give vyse her info flash back

I vibe with this change

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nkTR
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satoluvr [#7]

jett 2 updrafts not needed tbh

2 Jett updrafts but you have to land before being able to use the second would actually be balanced

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satoluvr [#13]

Noo, then all the jett demons will kill me from ridiculous angles and ill break my monitor

Sounds like a you problem

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BlessedHalloway
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I need neon bunny back dawg its so boring without bunny jumps

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one
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azert [#4]

buff cypher (before TenZ patch)
no range limit for kj
vyse just like when she was released
jett 2 updraft
tejo 60s cooldown
sova fade 40s cooldown, fade ult buff breach befofe TenZ patch skye 50s cooldown
Yoru before TenZ patch
omen smokes oneway buff
miks rework
ping system buff (before patch 9.11)

A post i can vibe with

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charisu
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I miss watching Yoru

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one
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charisu [#23]

I miss watching Yoru

Yoru was so cool as an agent

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nkTR [#19]

2 Jett updrafts but you have to land before being able to use the second would actually be balanced

Yeah it would. Jett is like the most balanced agent in the game rn though

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one
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nkTR [#19]

2 Jett updrafts but you have to land before being able to use the second would actually be balanced

Honestly u
How is the jett updraft broken like really?

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foodieinahoodie
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azert [#4]

buff cypher (before TenZ patch)
no range limit for kj
vyse just like when she was released
jett 2 updraft
tejo 60s cooldown
sova fade 40s cooldown, fade ult buff breach befofe TenZ patch skye 50s cooldown
Yoru before TenZ patch
omen smokes oneway buff
miks rework
ping system buff (before patch 9.11)

Honestly the utils were a bit too much but like I don't like the no default just mad rush meta man, like that guy isn't even playing and crying like a baby, he ll stream for a day and whine for a week, neon needed nerfs during champs last year but still dint feel very op cuzza the counter util, and without that, duelists dominate honestly

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make waylay's slow her rechargeable ability and make her refract 2 charges that cost 150 each, maybe shorten the duration of it/give it a range limit before automatically recalling her to balance out having 2 charges

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#26]

Honestly u
How is the jett updraft broken like really?

its not that broken
there's not many rounds where you have knives

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one
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Shuyaa [#28]

make waylay's slow her rechargeable ability and make her refract 2 charges that cost 150 each, maybe shorten the duration of it/give it a range limit before automatically recalling her to balance out having 2 charges

I dont even think refract needs any balance changes with 2 charges, its such a basic ability it does not have weird extreme complexities to be exploited

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he4venn
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WjFROST [#3]

lil cherry on top

G2 still lost with Prime Tejo btw
all thanks to the Legendary Player T1 Leaf

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GodAwfulGod
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They should just bring back old cypher trips, like there wasn't even really a reason to nerf them in the first place.

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Madouza
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azert [#4]

buff cypher (before TenZ patch)
no range limit for kj
vyse just like when she was released
jett 2 updraft
tejo 60s cooldown
sova fade 40s cooldown, fade ult buff breach befofe TenZ patch skye 50s cooldown
Yoru before TenZ patch
omen smokes oneway buff
miks rework
ping system buff (before patch 9.11)

jett two updraft just gives jett 2 dashes and an off angle ability.

The reason the updraft was knocked down to one was because players used 1 to get to a BS angle, and then another to act as a pseudo dash on certain angles, updrafting up and to the left/right after getting a long range pick to make yourself near unhittable. With 1 updraft you have to choose BS angle or Silly escape tool which I honestly think is pretty healthy.

Also, I don't remember which patch that is, but PLEASE, I don't want to return to the Ping bomb and spam from main meta-

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Madouza [#33]

jett two updraft just gives jett 2 dashes and an off angle ability.

The reason the updraft was knocked down to one was because players used 1 to get to a BS angle, and then another to act as a pseudo dash on certain angles, updrafting up and to the left/right after getting a long range pick to make yourself near unhittable. With 1 updraft you have to choose BS angle or Silly escape tool which I honestly think is pretty healthy.

Also, I don't remember which patch that is, but PLEASE, I don't want to return to the Ping bomb and spam from main meta-

Are the BS angles just bugs?
That's the only thing making sense for me
Unless its those 2 updraft tricks like the A main from Gen one on Ascent

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Madouza
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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#34]

Are the BS angles just bugs?
That's the only thing making sense for me
Unless its those 2 updraft tricks like the A main from Gen one on Ascent

I mean stuff like peeking over walls with ult and reaching high platforms.

Jett should have to choose between that and Escaping, which she does with only 1 updraft, the nerf did it's job perfectly.

You Could maybe give her the old dash back, with her new kit it doesn't seem awful. Or just giving her more dash time in general could be fine.

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MrHyphon
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Hey what if we gave neon 14 stun charges

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one
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Madouza [#35]

I mean stuff like peeking over walls with ult and reaching high platforms.

Jett should have to choose between that and Escaping, which she does with only 1 updraft, the nerf did it's job perfectly.

You Could maybe give her the old dash back, with her new kit it doesn't seem awful. Or just giving her more dash time in general could be fine.

You escape with updraft?
Tbh i dont see your logic cuz this isnt a dash + the BS tricks can be predicted cuz the only times people ever use them is when they have the ult online
As for the high platform ults, riot just adds a no fly height and boom we're done

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#37]

You escape with updraft?
Tbh i dont see your logic cuz this isnt a dash + the BS tricks can be predicted cuz the only times people ever use them is when they have the ult online
As for the high platform ults, riot just adds a no fly height and boom we're done

Yes, there are enough situations where 2 updrafts made her insanely hard to hit.
"Gira Aspas" is a prime example of double updraft BS, but also on certain angles you can just save one to have a quick way to throw off crosshair placement or force a whiff to give you time to fall behind cover. Haven A long, pearl B long, Pearl A main, Screens on split, the list goes on.

You can still do this with 1 updraft, but it's more situational now that you don't get the luxury of 2.

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one
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Madouza [#38]

Yes, there are enough situations where 2 updrafts made her insanely hard to hit.
"Gira Aspas" is a prime example of double updraft BS, but also on certain angles you can just save one to have a quick way to throw off crosshair placement or force a whiff to give you time to fall behind cover. Haven A long, pearl B long, Pearl A main, Screens on split, the list goes on.

You can still do this with 1 updraft, but it's more situational now that you don't get the luxury of 2.

Eh did that really matter in the grand scheme of things?
Like ill be honest updraft at times is underwhelming

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Gemiknight
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i agree, especially with the last one

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Madouza
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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one [#39]

Eh did that really matter in the grand scheme of things?
Like ill be honest updraft at times is underwhelming

It wasn't broken, just a tad annoying as ranks get higher-

Now it doesn't seem as mindless, you have to choose, Weird escape/panic button when your dash is gone or Get onto a high off angle.

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Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one
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Madouza [#41]

It wasn't broken, just a tad annoying as ranks get higher-

Now it doesn't seem as mindless, you have to choose, Weird escape/panic button when your dash is gone or Get onto a high off angle.

My simple point is it feels pointless to even think of in retrospect
Like was that choice affecting ranked.
Because i know of a far greater annoyance, how Neon can Slide shoot me in a tac fps about "precise gunplay" 8/10 times

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