I don't think that he would be as impactful today as he was when he was playing
The only reason as to why there isn't a definitive "GOAT Initiator" over Leo is because of how competitive and varied the role has become
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leo also benefited from being on the best team of 2023 in a time period where the competition was not very good
shrike- [#2]leo also benefited from being on the best team of 2023 in a time period where the competition was not very good
this is also true
the streets are saying that LEV blowz already surpassed Leo's legacy
glittering_yard [#4]the streets are saying that LEV blowz already surpassed Leo's legacy
i love blowz but maybe the streets need to reevaluate their takes
glittering_yard [#4]the streets are saying that LEV blowz already surpassed Leo's legacy
The only thing that guy is blowing is me lmao
glittering_yard [#4]the streets are saying that LEV blowz already surpassed Leo's legacy
Streets are lacking chromosomes
shrike- [#2]leo also benefited from being on the best team of 2023 in a time period where the competition was not very good
2023 had some of the most perfected metas in valorant, with some very good standout teams and the competition wasn’t that shit, EG PRX AND FNC were just too far ahead of others. Leo also still annihilated Pre-FNATIC
TheOnion [#9]2023 had some of the most perfected metas in valorant, with some very good standout teams and the competition wasn’t that shit, EG PRX AND FNC were just too far ahead of others. Leo also still annihilated Pre-FNATIC
The meta was great, the teams were just ass
TheOnion [#9]2023 had some of the most perfected metas in valorant, with some very good standout teams and the competition wasn’t that shit, EG PRX AND FNC were just too far ahead of others. Leo also still annihilated Pre-FNATIC
nah leo got carried by bonkar pre-fnc trust
I_LOVE_LESS [#8]sacy is the goat initiator
if he wasn't the best initiator itw while him & leo was playing why would he be the best initiator ever after him & leo were playing
shrike- [#10]The meta was great, the teams were just ass
Top teams of 2023 were some of the best of all time, overall competition might’ve been shit but the top dogs that year were not slouches.
TheOnion [#13]Top teams of 2023 were some of the best of all time, overall competition might’ve been shit but the top dogs that year were not slouches.
those top teams didn’t show themselves until champs
FNC had a pretty easy road up until they finally got chump checked by LOUD at champs
twigster001 [#12]if he wasn't the best initiator itw while him & leo was playing why would he be the best initiator ever after him & leo were playing
i have never seen leo as being above sacy
This is a hard thing to answer as it’s completely hypothetical. But considering the dominance of fade/sova for ini right now I would say he wouldn’t be bad at all. He excelled on those initiators
I_LOVE_LESS [#8]sacy is the goat initiator
hey sis
wanna trade sentinels?
tex to KRU
Less to MIBR
fair trade imo
glittering_yard [#17]hey sis
wanna trade sentinels?
tex to KRU
Less to MIBRfair trade imo
saadhak would find a way to turn tex into Less 2.0
shrike- [#14]those top teams didn’t show themselves until champs
FNC had a pretty easy road up until they finally got chump checked by LOUD at champs
Someone was eventually going to chump check them, 2023 Fnatic was probably the most studied team in valorant.
But I do think you’re underestimating the overall competition for the time, sure they might look like shit compared to now but I wouldn’t say there was a particular team I could pick out for being absolutely ass. Aside from KOI
glittering_yard [#17]hey sis
wanna trade sentinels?
tex to KRU
Less to MIBRfair trade imo
how about aspaszin to kru
I_LOVE_LESS [#20]how about aspaszin to kru
Wouldn’t you rather have a good neon ?
twigster001 [#18]saadhak would find a way to turn tex into Less 2.0
there are limits to everything
tex was cursed by some evil entity to throw unlosable rounds in the most embarassing ways possible
saadhak would need to become an exorcist
TheOnion [#21]Wouldn’t you rather have a good neon ?
aspas is good on neon and even if he wasnt i'd rather see Less and aspas reunion
shrike- [#2]leo also benefited from being on the best team of 2023 in a time period where the competition was not very good
Wasnt Leo goated in GUILD?
I_LOVE_LESS [#20]how about aspaszin to kru
Less was talking so much about aspas on stream today, idk if its foreshadowing
TheOnion [#19]Someone was eventually going to chump check them, 2023 Fnatic was probably the most studied team in valorant.
But I do think you’re underestimating the overall competition for the time, sure they might look like shit compared to now but I wouldn’t say there was a particular team I could pick out for being absolutely ass. Aside from KOI
They were so studied that no one until loud figured out how to beat a lotus comp with no flashes
TM06Nick [#27]They were so studied that no one until loud figured out how to beat a lotus comp with no flashes
I don’t see your point. All these years later and they still use the same iteration of that lotus comp. And yet people are still not able to expose their lotus often. (Aside from their 2 most recent games but that’s because neon is broken)
glittering_yard [#4]the streets are saying that LEV blowz already surpassed Leo's legacy
The streets are spitting
We don’t really care about Leo in 2026, personally lost interest in him once trent overtook him statistically
AkameMNT [#24]Wasnt Leo goated in GUILD?
Unfortunately GLD was nerfed by russ yacine and koldamenta
glittering_yard [#22]there are limits to everything
tex was cursed by some evil entity to throw unlosable rounds in the most embarassing ways possible
saadhak would need to become an exorcist
dont be cringe bro tex single handedly won them like 5 round on breeze
emmanuel374631_ [#32]dont be cringe bro tex single handedly won them like 5 round on breeze
I know, but then he get in a spot where he is full HP in a 1v1 clutch against Zellsis(low hp) and somehow still loses, its fucked, i have never seen this amount of bad luck in a player
JonahPork [#30]We don’t really care about Leo in 2026, personally lost interest in him once trent overtook him statistically
congrats to trent for the highly esteemed "better baiter than leo" trophy, some real 🐐 shit
glittering_yard [#22]there are limits to everything
tex was cursed by some evil entity to throw unlosable rounds in the most embarassing ways possible
saadhak would need to become an exorcist
saadhak could probably pull it off
glittering_yard [#33]I know, but then he get in a spot where he is full HP in a 1v1 clutch against Zellsis(low hp) and somehow still loses, its fucked, i have never seen this amount of bad luck in a player
ya i agree its pretty unlucky
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