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new import rules lwk suck

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serot

I personally enjoy highly multinational rosters because it means the best possible valorant teams can be assembled over creating some mid ass team with subpar subregion players

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DSBY
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rest in peace KC you got hit by a bazooka

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serot
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NA is feasting while EMEA is in shambles

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delighted
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thank goodness for emea being in shambles

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serot
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these rules have to be biased towards NA and CN
CN wouldn't even have any subregions and NA is a supersubregion itself
EMEA and APAC got hard nerfed

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maybe it's time for me to stop watching vct actively

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ViperV3-PRO-ABUSER
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youre a ts fan should of stopped watching a long time ago

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delighted
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?

#30
yngmck
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bro jessievash has been dropping stinkers since ive been in hs and im abt to go to grad school how ts hasnt tried a different player in nearly 6 years is just so baffling

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DSBY
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frick u dood

#10
t0t0_wolff
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One team region

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I don think its terribly hard to replace one of lewn, avez or narrate. Its just one player difference and there are plenty of insane eu players available.

Also the way its going for KC they will blow up the roster regardless

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sentinelmain377
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kaboom kuplow

#51
DSBY
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ykwu

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nooomy
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KC are fucking shit with an international roster so it wont make a difference

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RIP NAVI RIP KC RIP GE RIP MIBR/FURIA (potentially)

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Hyxagon
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mibr and furia will be fine, just because the org is brazillian doesn’t mean their roster is forced to be.
otherwise teams like varrel and g2 would be fucked

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idk if riot will allow teams to switch regions ykwim like what if they wanna go back to rep brazil after a season? are they assigning a certain amount of partnered teams per subregion or do partner orgs encompass all of americas/emea/pac? Like pacific for example rn only south asian org is GE but their roster has zero south asian players, if they dont drop their current team that can lowk make an international what org would represent south asia? Blows for GE but it doesnt make sense to have subdivided regions and no partner reps for that region is what im saying
edit- nvm i just saw they can declare as long as they have 3 but my point still stands like what if no partner team represents that subregion for example south asia in pac? that seems kinda odd

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serot
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if riot allows yearly change for subregions then GE can just keep their roster and register for SEA

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yngmck
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yeah i just saw that but like what happens if theres no partner team for south asia in 27 bc GE's registering as SEA? doesnt that defeat the point of subdivisions

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serot
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honestly idk why they even made the change
practically nobody had an issue with the 1 import big region system
this just makes more problems than it fixes, especially since it heavily benefits china and harms other regions

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overall i like the changes but im not sure how to feel about regional subdivisions, i guess it has to happen based on the format for cup qualification otherwise varrel could just compete in a less competitive subregional tournament to make the cup instead of fighting the kr gauntlet

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Hyxagon
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they had to do sub regions because an online, open qualifier is just not feasible for a full region.

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serot
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an easy solution would just be closed qualifiers for partnered and top performing non partnered teams from previous split
they don't need to be restricted by subregion stuff cause they can just be directly invited to a location to run the qualifiers

also allows better stability when it comes to longevity in changing metas, so teams have time at the top level to build fanbases without having to climb thru open qualifiers every time and take a viewership hit

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Hyxagon
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those top performing non partner teams still have to make rosters under subregions import rules, and it would create issues to have some teams follow one import rule and others follow a different one.

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Hyxagon
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well now that riot will reassess contracts every 2 years instead of 4, they could easily just drop an org for one that is more dedicated to their region.

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yngmck
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i guess but how they define that would be interesting because if GE's roster does end up qualifying for internationals it would be tragic for them to disband because riot deems the org as "undedicated" to their region. guess we will just have to see how everything shapes up this offseason and which orgs even make it into the new partner system

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Hyxagon
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if riot revokes a teams partnership they don’t have to disband now, the open qualification means that GE and their roster could still compete in whatever region they declared themselves and still qualify to internationals

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Congo1
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Why would they have to disband?

#35
yngmck
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under the premise that riot is making partnership more selective so if they were going to subdivide partners by region they would have a stronger pitch to riot as the premier south asian representation rather than battling with all the other sea orgs but i didnt see the part where riot said the orgs can switch between subregion as long as they meet 3 member requirement

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foythvlr
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i see a world of MIBR actually improving with that

#6
delighted
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preach

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Hyxagon
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it’s necessary for a sub region circuit though, you don’t want a team with just 2 mena players playing in mena with 3 top players from eu/turkey
the only teams i think are forced to change their roster atm would be kc and navi (maybe ge, cause idk if australia counts as sea or not), so it’s not like strong teams aren’t possible. honestly might even be more possible, cause you have infinite flexibility over 3 players, not just 2 (ie you could sign aspas, alfa, and forsaken, then choose one of their regions to find two more players)

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serot
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honestly the roster changes are less of an issue for me
its the fact that this change clearly is heavily favoring china
china already kind of import reliant for a lot of its top teams (XLG, DRG, AG)
and since they don't have a divisible subregion then they basically get +1 import slot for zero penalty
they also now have the most flexibility when building rosters compared to any other subregion

also since weaker subregions get fucked over since they have less options on roster construction, the good subregions like korea, NA, turkey, etc all get better by comparison

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no offense but i think buffing china is the least of our worries, they might win two matches per international instead of one.

but yea it does mean that strong subregions will have a decent advantage going forward, but at the same time, it would probably be healthier with sub regions because those weaker subregions will still see a roster represent them no matter what (unlike now, where latam fans best hope is a latam player on a brazilian org with mostly na players)

#25
yngmck
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holy shit lmfao i was gonna say lev/kru easy latam qual but their rosters are both 3 brazil rn

#24
9wntr
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TM 2027 ExiT :eyes:
mena superteam soon

#36
GodAwfulGod
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MENA and superteam dont belong in the same sentence

#37
9wntr
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:eyes:

#38
MrBlooBloom
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Aren't AlQadsiah exactly that already? (Not anymore without Exit ig but u see what I mean)

#40
9wntr
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our 2 best igls both play in NA
(recoil is igling oon adg and looks good)
and ideally koji > zimo

#41
MrBlooBloom
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Isn't Sickrey a top 2 IGL in MENA historically ?

#42
9wntr
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im assuming no imports
if u wanna make one with imports sickrey is deffo top 2
assuming 2 imports sickrey and susano/simond4rk r ideal

#31
KiwiJuice
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where did they post the changes?

#32
r3rase
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Check YT video of VCT official channel

#39
Anguibok
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Yeah lets loose cultural identityt to just have all the team that feel the same and represent nothing.

#43
Ahnri
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By feel the same do you mean trying to win...?

#45
Anguibok
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Recruiting 5 Korean just to win and betraying your country/region is a looser mentality, thats why I have a lot of respect for KC cause they really try to develop talent in LoL

#44
serot
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Esports has nothing to do with where you were born
The only thing where that does matter is in making you more relatable to fans from that area
The world is globalizing anyway
A guy from the uk for example could be a massive wolves esports fan
Teams like paper rex and sentinels have massive multinational fanbases
The only thing an esports team should represent is the org and the players

#46
Anguibok
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You speak as if this was a good thing

#47
serot
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its a good thing for the game because it brings in the players that deserve to be there but its certainly not a good thing for people who only care about seeing players that made teams solely off the basis of their race and country of origin
you can be a messi or ronaldo fan from anywhere in the world, sports and esports was always about the players themselves rather than where they came from
if they come from your country its just an added bonus

#49
Anguibok
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deserve to be there

Meritocracy is a illusion, people with more opportunities will go higher. Having a bad country of origin in Valo make it almost impossible to play in T1 currently.

#52
imfromchina
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Does the new rule mean chinese teams can have 2 imports now

#54
serot
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yes

#55
imfromchina
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thats terrible gosh

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