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This masters was one of the lowest viewed tournaments . Even a cs mickey mouse tournament had same numbers at the same time.

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valorant is dead and PRX killed it

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sentinelmain377
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valorant is dead

Riot devs are kinda dum. They r trying to be more like CS, but then ppl would just rather play CS (cuz it has better weapons). Valorant needs to be like Valorant (util spam, good initiators, good sentis, etc) if it wants to remain unique and popular.

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this is all according to plan valorant is dead now other esports will rise but valorant will be back dw its in loop

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donk2769
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Valorant has no storylines, no banter, no drama. Its boring rn .
We need more teams like bbl who actually have a personality. Good or bad doesn’t matter.

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it was a tournament with "All Gamers, FURIA, BBL, Gentle Mates, Nongshim RedForce"

of course the viewership is going to be low

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shit game, shit devs, shit maps, no personality, and riot val team are just a bunch of tenze dick suckers. Even the league dev team don't exactly follow what faker wants in the game lmao and hes pulls the most viewrship by far of any esports personality tbh

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glittering_yard [#6]

it was a tournament with "All Gamers, FURIA, BBL, Gentle Mates, Nongshim RedForce"

of course the viewership is going to be low

So we constantly need fnc,sen,geng,prx or big names to pull decent viewership. Yeah the games dead.

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donk2769 [#5]

Valorant has no storylines, no banter, no drama. Its boring rn .
We need more teams like bbl who actually have a personality. Good or bad doesn’t matter.

Good or bad doesn’t matter

Nope, you need to be good enough, nobody give a f*ck to a loser barking

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donk2769 [#8]

So we constantly need fnc,sen,geng,prx or big names to pull decent viewership. Yeah the games dead.

SEN doesnt have that motion anymore without TenZ, from Americas we need MIBR aspas (The most clouted org is LOUD, but they cant win games)

EMEA is only FNC Boaster

From Pacific its just PRX + Korean mafia

China: EDG Zmjjkk

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1One1 [#9]

Good or bad doesn’t matter

Nope, you need to be good enough, nobody give a f*ck to a loser barking

If you dont like banter and shit talk . Dont watch esports. Bunch of softies getting mad about kids trying express their personalities.

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People are forgetting that the timezone was terrible for asian viewers who pull almost half of the viewership.

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They just need to make it scripted and let teams like m8 or prx win LULLL. That shit would bring viewers. Or even MIBR.

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Which CS tourney are you talking about btw? Cause while this was def a mid tourney for viewership, it was still more than doubling ESL's average viewers
Peak was a bit low, but we've had plenty of tourneys with worse average views (which is ultimately the most important view metric)

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Targu1n [#14]

Which CS tourney are you talking about btw? Cause while this was def a mid tourney for viewership, it was still more than doubling ESL's average viewers
Peak was a bit low, but we've had plenty of tourneys with worse average views (which is ultimately the most important view metric)

think esl pro league

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sentinelmain377 [#3]

valorant is dead

Riot devs are kinda dum. They r trying to be more like CS, but then ppl would just rather play CS (cuz it has better weapons). Valorant needs to be like Valorant (util spam, good initiators, good sentis, etc) if it wants to remain unique and popular.

rt

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sentinelmain377 [#3]

valorant is dead

Riot devs are kinda dum. They r trying to be more like CS, but then ppl would just rather play CS (cuz it has better weapons). Valorant needs to be like Valorant (util spam, good initiators, good sentis, etc) if it wants to remain unique and popular.

But but tenz cannot process so much util in a match. How do we tackle that issue?

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only EDG winning the tournament can save the numbers. China makes up 40% to 70% of viewers.
Santiago crowd was great, but only Asia timezone can save it.

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ihateverythinggg
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Targu1n [#14]

Which CS tourney are you talking about btw? Cause while this was def a mid tourney for viewership, it was still more than doubling ESL's average viewers
Peak was a bit low, but we've had plenty of tourneys with worse average views (which is ultimately the most important view metric)

it was not doubling lol
Val had 850K peak viewers, CS had 750K peak viewers.

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CrackedDuelist [#15]

think esl pro league

ah, the 180k average viewer tourney
yea valo is fine if that ones the concern

IEM wrecks us though (basically champs viewership every couple of months)

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ihateverythinggg [#19]

it was not doubling lol
Val had 850K peak viewers, CS had 750K peak viewers.

reread what I said
theres a word in there

ya might be able to find it
its very subtle and definitely not mentioned twice

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ihateverythinggg [#19]

it was not doubling lol
Val had 850K peak viewers, CS had 750K peak viewers.

Did you even read his post

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ihateverythinggg
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Targu1n [#21]

reread what I said
theres a word in there

ya might be able to find it
its very subtle and definitely not mentioned twice

yeah my bad, Ofc Average viewers will be low for CS as tier 3 teams play in a lot of matches and only Playoffs and Stage 3 are worth watching.

But playoffs were head to head mostly with Valo

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sentinelmain377 [#3]

valorant is dead

Riot devs are kinda dum. They r trying to be more like CS, but then ppl would just rather play CS (cuz it has better weapons). Valorant needs to be like Valorant (util spam, good initiators, good sentis, etc) if it wants to remain unique and popular.

the thing is half of the community wants full util spam. other half want less util. After all valorant is infamous for bunch load of utils. I am fine with both personallly.

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ihateverythinggg [#23]

yeah my bad, Ofc Average viewers will be low for CS as tier 3 teams play in a lot of matches and only Playoffs and Stage 3 are worth watching.

But playoffs were head to head mostly with Valo

Ye thats fair, models are harder to compare

But even then esport charts doesnt show them being similar in viewers

The 2nd highest view game (Navi vs Fut - 457 827) is already significantly under Santiagos 5th highest game (PRX vs NRG 583 064) with the dropoff continuing the be WAY steeper (already down to 392 927 by the 3rd, which is under average views for santiago)

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