GOAT list (zero debate)

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  1. Aspas
  2. Chronicle
  3. Ethan
  4. Alfajer
  5. Forsaken
  6. Sacy
  7. Meteor
  8. Tenz
  9. Boaster (can flip with like anyone 6-9)
  10. Nats (hes only won one trophy in plumber era hard to move him up)
#2
egann
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son

#3
hgdytuiojikl
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where is asuna

#4
senyagi
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i don't see meiy

#5
markass_brownee
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I don't see ardiis

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tua
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TheAceGamer incoming!!! ⚠️⚠️

#7
Sadobaba
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Aspas will play so bad just wait

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noahkraken
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Not this again. Aspas isn’t GOAT and it’s obvious. 2 grand finals appearance and only 1 trophy where he was 3rd best on his team for that tournament.

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themaniel
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  1. alfajer
  2. aspas
  3. derke
  4. chronicle
  5. sacy
  6. meteor
  7. f0rsaken

rest are irrelevant

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themaniel [#9]
  1. alfajer
  2. aspas
  3. derke
  4. chronicle
  5. sacy
  6. meteor
  7. f0rsaken

rest are irrelevant

bro snuck in derke like he hasnt done anything for 2 years

#11
themaniel
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Gdgdfdgtttt [#10]

bro snuck in derke like he hasnt done anything for 2 years

thank god it isnt a greatest of the last 2 years list then

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themaniel [#11]

thank god it isnt a greatest of the last 2 years list then

bro snuck chronicle behind derke how

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themaniel [#9]
  1. alfajer
  2. aspas
  3. derke
  4. chronicle
  5. sacy
  6. meteor
  7. f0rsaken

rest are irrelevant

derke at 3 and forsaken at 7, yea u disgust me

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themaniel [#9]
  1. alfajer
  2. aspas
  3. derke
  4. chronicle
  5. sacy
  6. meteor
  7. f0rsaken

rest are irrelevant

I’d personally have f0rsaken above meteor only because he’s had way more longevity and success over time. I don’t have an issue with it though

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noahkraken [#8]

Not this again. Aspas isn’t GOAT and it’s obvious. 2 grand finals appearance and only 1 trophy where he was 3rd best on his team for that tournament.

the best player of your flag = aspas is the GOAT
the best player of your flair = aspas is the GOAT

noahkraken = aspas isn't the GOAT and it's obvious

#16
laeDLaer
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no Derke?????? is this a joke??????????????????

#17
themaniel
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noahkraken [#14]

I’d personally have f0rsaken above meteor only because he’s had way more longevity and success over time. I don’t have an issue with it though

neither meteor or f0rsaken have had longevity success overtime

f0rsaken had a single exceptional international event before 2025

meteor didnt really exist till 2024

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laeDLaer [#16]

no Derke?????? is this a joke??????????????????

derke was a perfectly average duelist surrounded by 3 other players on the list, hasnt been good for like 2 years aswell sooooo

#19
ronaldinhoooooooooooo
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T3xtures run is so under appreciated

#20
laeDLaer
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Gdgdfdgtttt [#18]

derke was a perfectly average duelist surrounded by 3 other players on the list, hasnt been good for like 2 years aswell sooooo

yeah thanks for confirming youre a retarded baiter

haha gj you got me

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themaniel [#17]

neither meteor or f0rsaken have had longevity success overtime

f0rsaken had a single exceptional international event before 2025

meteor didnt really exist till 2024

Yeah but f0rsaken made champs 2023 GF and Copenhagen GF before. I know he wasn’t statistically great but he was an important member of those successful teams

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Gdgdfdgtttt [#12]

bro snuck chronicle behind derke how

derke brought back lockin and doesnt get involved in twitter drama with 17 year olds the day before a grand final

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laeDLaer [#20]

yeah thanks for confirming youre a retarded baiter

haha gj you got me

????? bro had prime leo on the team with a good chronicle and alfajer of course im gonna win games with a 1.1 rating look at my fucking team

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glittering_yard [#15]

the best player of your flag = aspas is the GOAT
the best player of your flair = aspas is the GOAT

noahkraken = aspas isn't the GOAT and it's obvious

Notice how there’s no argument against what I said

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efftee
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why is it called plumber era for nats trophy?

#26
themaniel
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noahkraken [#21]

Yeah but f0rsaken made champs 2023 GF and Copenhagen GF before. I know he wasn’t statistically great but he was an important member of those successful teams

i think its very close

if f0rsaken wins santiago he will be miles clear in my books

meteor made 3 grand finals, won two of them and performed good in both of the ones he won, but i think f0rsaken has a much higher ceiling

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noahkraken [#24]

Notice how there’s no argument against what I said

hes been considered one of if not THE best player around the world for 4 years while carrying xen0m and sex to champ runs

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efftee [#25]

why is it called plumber era for nats trophy?

even shazam won a trophy thats why its called plumbers

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Ethan has 2 champs yeah but for me alfajer is still greater than him

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cirruss
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Gdgdfdgtttt [#28]

even shazam won a trophy thats why its called plumbers

reykjavik was plumbers but in berlin they literally beat optic

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noahkraken
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Gdgdfdgtttt [#27]

hes been considered one of if not THE best player around the world for 4 years while carrying xen0m and sex to champ runs

He puts up great KDA numbers regionally then his stats often drastically decrease internationally, and of course my point still stands that he’s never been the best performer on a title winning team

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noahkraken [#31]

He puts up great KDA numbers regionally then his stats often drastically decrease internationally, and of course my point still stands that he’s never been the best performer on a title winning team

i mean for 3/4 of the players on this list u can say they werent the best on every roster they played on

plus his stats dont dip internationally and he was (in my opinion) the best or 2nd best player on that loud roster at the time

#33
asunaluvr
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hgdytuiojikl [#3]

where is asuna

im also wondering this

#34
mondely
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u guys may not accept f0rsaken top3 but get bumnicle out of there. alfajer is better and carried him

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cirruss [#30]

reykjavik was plumbers but in berlin they literally beat optic

2021 is plumbers era even BONECOLD has a champs trophy... and d3ffo has a masters trophy

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Gdgdfdgtttt [#32]

i mean for 3/4 of the players on this list u can say they werent the best on every roster they played on

plus his stats dont dip internationally and he was (in my opinion) the best or 2nd best player on that loud roster at the time

Yes but they won a trophy as the best player for that tournament

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  1. Less
  2. aspaszin
#38
glittering_yard
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noahkraken [#36]

Yes but they won a trophy as the best player for that tournament

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/Statistics#MVP_of_Each_Champions

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cirruss
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Gdgdfdgtttt [#35]

2021 is plumbers era even BONECOLD has a champs trophy... and d3ffo has a masters trophy

optic losing to d3ffo is pretty bad not gonna lie

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