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KiwiJuice
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Where would you rank him as an igl in the world rn?
for me he's 3rd after boaster and Valyn

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mzto
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nah bro he is already better than valyn atm... he has to win 3 tournaments at least to be better than boaster.

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k_zar010
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whats the metric for putting him as the 3rd best?

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UhhBrandon
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bro punched FNS then became one of the best IGL's and initiators in the game

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3ASh
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Artzin calling on defense was just misreads

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catNmouse
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2nd best in americas, top 5 itw

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jawn
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yeah he's world class, showed it last year

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cirruss
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needs better results internationally first

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jawn
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cirruss [#8]

needs better results internationally first

top 4 champs on his first IGL stint

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Treedy00
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cirruss [#8]

needs better results internationally first

what about valyn? a final in a mickey mouse tournament

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jawn [#9]

top 4 champs on his first IGL stint

Forgot about Toronto brotato chip

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asunaluvr
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3rd after boaster and vora

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kyo12 [#11]

Forgot about Toronto brotato chip

he was solo carrying individually

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KiwiJuice
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k_zar010 [#3]

whats the metric for putting him as the 3rd best?

the quality of strategy a team has in my eyes. the fact that Aspas and Zekken don't even have to go nuclear to win maps is enough for me. Boaster i'm not even gonna touch because he's been doing it for so long now. Valyn same thing but like a tier lower. Ethan for example I'm just thinking sometimes NRG is a little one dimensional, very good protocols and team play. but no strategic masterclass. I don't really watch china so can't comment on that and same goes for apac tbh.

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jawn [#13]

he was solo carrying individually

I agree with you but they still ended up losing out horribly. Champs was really nice though

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asunaluvr [#12]

3rd after boaster and vora

one sneak

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kyo12 [#15]

I agree with you but they still ended up losing out horribly. Champs was really nice though

back me up bro wtf

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Asto3 [#16]

one sneak

i know boaster isnt fragging that well rn but u have to admit he's crucial to fnatic

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kyo12 [#11]

Forgot about Toronto brotato chip

wasnt igling in toronto bromato chip

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catNmouse
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Treedy00 [#10]

what about valyn? a final in a mickey mouse tournament

3rd in shanghai, 2nd in bangkok, 4th in toronto and top 8 at champs x2 + x3 americas champs

better results than verno lol

#21
sh1lll
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Are we deadass? This thread is surely ragebait no way people genuienley think this

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UhhBrandon [#4]

bro punched FNS then became one of the best IGL's and initiators in the game

hit him with that drain punch

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asunaluvr [#18]

i know boaster isnt fragging that well rn but u have to admit he's crucial to fnatic

LMFAO you genuinely make me laugh, really good, top 1 100t fan lol

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jawn [#9]

top 4 champs on his first IGL stint

top 4 ? LOL

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Zaba
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I think he is good, like he's great. But it must be more easy to igl in a team with calls from zekken, aspas, mazimo and tex who are very experienced and world class players

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jawn
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cirruss [#24]

top 4 ? LOL

oh yeah mb

#27
KiwiJuice
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sh1lll [#21]

Are we deadass? This thread is surely ragebait no way people genuienley think this

what about this thread do you disagree with?

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Zaba [#25]

I think he is good, like he's great. But it must be more easy to igl in a team with calls from zekken, aspas, mazimo and tex who are very experienced and world class players

he also did well with artzin, xenom and cortezia tbh

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asunaluvr
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Asto3 [#23]

LMFAO you genuinely make me laugh, really good, top 1 100t fan lol

loll thank u 🫶

#30
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KiwiJuice [#27]

what about this thread do you disagree with?

I wouldn't even go maybe top 10, let alone top 3

#31
KiwiJuice
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sh1lll [#30]

I wouldn't even go maybe top 10, let alone top 3

name 10 better igls, let's see it

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KiwiJuice [#31]

name 10 better igls, let's see it

Ethan, Boaster, Valyn, nAts, f0rsakeN, JohnQT, Munchkin, Rosé, Mako

Then I have a few more contenders but you can argue Verno is there as the 10th slot

Calling him Top 3 after winning 2-3 games is ludicrious

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KiwiJuice [#14]

the quality of strategy a team has in my eyes. the fact that Aspas and Zekken don't even have to go nuclear to win maps is enough for me. Boaster i'm not even gonna touch because he's been doing it for so long now. Valyn same thing but like a tier lower. Ethan for example I'm just thinking sometimes NRG is a little one dimensional, very good protocols and team play. but no strategic masterclass. I don't really watch china so can't comment on that and same goes for apac tbh.

Aged like milk, G2 crushed MiBr lol

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mzto [#2]

nah bro he is already better than valyn atm... he has to win 3 tournaments at least to be better than boaster.

Son😭

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Dudhi
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mzto [#2]

nah bro he is already better than valyn atm... he has to win 3 tournaments at least to be better than boaster.

Son😭

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jbuffon
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mzto [#2]

nah bro he is already better than valyn atm... he has to win 3 tournaments at least to be better than boaster.

Son😭

#37
KiwiJuice
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P100P [#33]

Aged like milk, G2 crushed MiBr lol

ok but read it again and then convince me you don't have room temperature IQ

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dimmed
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mzto [#2]

nah bro he is already better than valyn atm... he has to win 3 tournaments at least to be better than boaster.

Son😭

#39
JawGoatmo
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mzto [#2]

nah bro he is already better than valyn atm... he has to win 3 tournaments at least to be better than boaster.

Son😭

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mzto [#2]

nah bro he is already better than valyn atm... he has to win 3 tournaments at least to be better than boaster.

fuh naw nga. he has more potential tho for sure because hes 19 and valyn is like 23 or 24

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KiwiJuice [#37]

ok but read it again and then convince me you don't have room temperature IQ

I mean i do agree, they are looking good without aspas or zekken masterclass, but for now we dont know for sure, what the problem is? The system or the calling etc for their below expected performances.

But, Placing him Top 3 is wild, no title, no finals just single Top 3 appearance.

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catNmouse [#20]

3rd in shanghai, 2nd in bangkok, 4th in toronto and top 8 at champs x2 + x3 americas champs

better results than verno lol

I hope G2 wins a title this year, They always bounce back and get stronger. No way, Valyn, Leaf still got no titles T_T

#43
Steelz
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like kingg
good player shit igl just igl well on aspas system

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catNmouse [#20]

3rd in shanghai, 2nd in bangkok, 4th in toronto and top 8 at champs x2 + x3 americas champs

better results than verno lol

verno 19 vs valyn 23
valyn is better but not by enough to say that verno wont surpass valyns prime

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