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VCT Goat Debate

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#1
DiscoOnVal

Chronicle: 1.15, 1.11, 1.11, 1.15, (1.10 includes EWC main event), 3 rings, 7 finals
Aspas: N/A, 1.20, 1.19, 1.26, 1.19, 1 ring, 3 finals
TenZ: 1.18, 1.13, 0.96, 1.13, N/A, 2 rings, 2 finals

I was curious who the wider community thinks is the GOAT, I put up each players notable stats and achievements. (I wish similar to HLTV there was career stats for a player as well as player rankings to make this question easier to answer, VLR should add that)

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reaper_rega08
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Why is Tenz even in the conversation? He maybe the most popular Valorant player but he certainly ain't the GOAT.

#6
DiscoOnVal
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Though he doesn't have a legitimate argument I think he's accomplished to enough to at least put him in the conversation

#11
MrBlooBloom
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How are you supposed to be in the conversation if there's no good argument for you?

#12
DiscoOnVal
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Somewhat of an honorable mention, similar to Kareem, Kobe in basketball or Device in CS, a small camp in the community for their respective sports call them the GOAT but for the wider community they aren't.

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MrBlooBloom
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right so they're not in the convo they're just iconic

edit: downvoted by s0n fans keke

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DiscoOnVal
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Most of the people who call him the GOAT though are either, SEN fans or haven't followed the scene in a while though enough people will say "where's TenZ" that I thought it made sense to add him though he really doesn't have argument

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hoboclap
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I personally dont have a goat yet, but all i gotta say is that if Aspas doesnt win an international event with this MIBR roster, he can never be the goat.

#35
Coronos
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Huh?? I dont think this MIBR is better than last year's fnatic, so how did u reach this conclusion?

#36
wamaaan
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But the level of competition is much lower this year for sure compared to last year.

#38
hoboclap
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Last year’s fnatic has boaster.

MIBR has no link as weak as boaster.

They are stronger than last year fnatic, but very slightly.

#48
ATAT7
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Exactly, this MIBR doesn't have Boaster which makes them less strong than FNC solely because of IGL Diff

#49
hoboclap
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they have a pretty good igl (verno) that frags heavily and clutches like no other.

Verno makes up for the strat diff and then some in his pure fragging.

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Addammo
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There isn't a GOAT yet, game hasn't been out long enough and until it's unarguable who it is then I think it's best to just wait and see

#19
Mqrio
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the game is 5 years old you can have a goat at this point

#27
Addammo
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yeah but we don't

#39
Mqrio
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lots of vlr users would disagree with you

#41
GhostKing44
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lots of vlr users are idiots that dont actually know shit about pro valorant and are wrong about stuff more often than not, because none of us actually know the behind the scenes stuff, why certain decisions are made and why things are the way they are. we are making judgements with next to no info.

#42
Mqrio
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yeah but all those factors are going to remain behind the current even when there is enough time that passes to come up with a GOAT, so I don't see your point.

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alpine007
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fking hell hes made 7 finals?

EDIT:
yea hes made :
berlin 2021
champs 2021
lock in 2023
tokyo 2023
EWC 2025
toronto 2025
champs 2025

damn

#31
porqueeekkkkkkk
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but only winning 3 out of 7 is kinda sad, same w crashies

#40
FlygonFC
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playing 3vs5 in ur last 3 finals does that to u

#45
alpine007
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yea Champs 2021 should have been gambit but ACEND had a life tournament
EWC should have been FNCs but TH somehow won lol.
both tokyo and champs were close

FNC are the true edgers of valorant NGL. so close yet so far.

#7
AGlover
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where's demon1?

#13
DiscoOnVal
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Demon1: N/A, N/A, 1.15, 0.97, 0.99, 1 ring, 2 finals, are his stats and achievements

#8
CaxTonYT
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Pls glittering yard dont comment ur bs here I don't wanna hear it again

#43
glittering_yard
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that guy is counting Masters as "Rings" lmaooooo

Chronicle has ZERO rings as he never won the World Championship of the game (Champions):

He lost to -31 KIles with +31 nAts on his team

He was the MAIN REASON prime Fnatic lost Champions 2023, going -15 and -22 against LOUD aspas

He got eliminated by Sacy at Champions 2024 (Sacy is more victorious than Chronicle, but some people choose to forget that because of agenda)

Chronicle was beefing with teenagers on Twitter and threatening them over a ranked clip (is this your goat?). He got destroyed by the true goat flex PRX f0rsaken a day after, a flex who can actually play every agent in the game and not just sentinel + breach.

He suffered the biggest flex/support diff of all time against NRG Ethan at Champions 2025. Chronicle got carried all game by the only rookie on his team + crashies. Ethan carried 3 rookies on his team in the most important map of the year while being the IGL. (Ethan is also more victorious than Chronicle with 2 actual RINGS)

All of Leo, Derke and Alfajer are closer to Aspas than Chronicle is.

#9
Divine_Thunder
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aspas

#10
RealBallKnower
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just for the recent incident alone i will devote to TenZ. he deserves it the most

#15
Cryoglazer
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cryo

#24
DiscoOnVal
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Cryo: 1.15, 1.20, 1.06, 1.14, 1.18, 0 rings, 0 finals, other than international success he has a WAY better argument than I was expecting

#16
SilverRedDaniel
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Off of vibes I want to say it's aspas, off of stats its chronicle, and in my heart tenz is so integral to valorant history

#18
MindGoblin1
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TenZ wasn't consistent enough bro

for me its between Aspas and Chron and rn i got Chron winning but we will see how many trophies/good performances Aspas has at the end of this year.

#20
DiscoOnVal
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I agree, but enough people are going to ask "where's TenZ" that I think it's fair plus he is a great of the game, his GOAT argument is a little outdated though

#25
bl4z31ng
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this is VLR where people have more than surface level VCT knowledge

#28
DiscoOnVal
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you'll be surprised some of the takes you see on this site

#21
Xool_233
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Where boaster

#29
DiscoOnVal
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0.95, 0.93, 0.97, 0.85, 0.86, 2 rings, 6 finals are his stats

#22
catNmouse
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Notice how ethan is not on here 🤔

#33
Selfim
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i mean the only other 3 you can bring into this convo are Forsaken Alfa and Ethan so yeah

#23
confirmed
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crazy how icy isnt on here

#30
DiscoOnVal
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N/A, 0.91, N/A, 0.92, 0.91, 0 rings, 0 finals are his stats

#26
seven_glazer
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where is raafa and urango?

#32
mondely
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come back in 2028 when f0rsaken solidifies himself as the goat of valorant once and for all.

#34
Nats_2nd_biggest_fan
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nAts????????

#44
noahkraken
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Nopers

#37
vico4x
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Low key chronicle for me

#46
JawXG
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gotta be m4 for me

#47
brams6663
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Personally, I think it's Derke or ANGE1

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