My guess is that rossy and maybe keznit by extension want to force out the original members of envy and build their own team with their own new dynamics. First step was getting inspire out, next step is probably getting poppin out. ENVY JonahP is on the horizon
Edit: forgot stunner coached rossy back on T1, which makes this look a bit more likely
nah i feel like poppin is a good recon talent they for sure need to upgrade eggster he has hit his ceiling here
bro why are we just making up these insane false narratives about rossy all the time
if you dont know what happened dont talk about it like you know
serot [#5]bro why are we just making up these insane false narratives about rossy all the time
if you dont know what happened dont talk about it like you know
its funny bc when rossy was dropped from c9 everyone did the same thing
its not impossible that babyj was the problem
gamergirl [#7]its funny bc when rossy was dropped from c9 everyone did the same thing
its not impossible that babyj was the problem
yeah almost like babyj has a history of this type of behavior...
insane to me that people are blaming rossy
serot [#5]bro why are we just making up these insane false narratives about rossy all the time
if you dont know what happened dont talk about it like you know
rossy has a bad rep
gamergirl [#3]yall should do research on envys coach
this was always gonna happen lol
clue us in
serot [#5]bro why are we just making up these insane false narratives about rossy all the time
if you dont know what happened dont talk about it like you know
Yo dumbass that’s why I started the post with “my guess is”. ENVY just played for an entire year together and won ascension with no “internal problems”. The only new elements are keznit and rossy. Both of which have strong personalities, and rossy in particular has a history. I honestly love rossy as a player but how many times does this has to happen before it stops being a coincidence
aiber [#9]rossy has a bad rep
manufactured bad rep because he got dropped from C9
when he left T1 his teammates only had good things to say about him
and babyj has just as bad of a rep if not worse btw
alto [#14]Yo dumbass that’s why I started the post with “my guess is”. ENVY just played for an entire year together and won ascension with no “internal problems”. The only new elements are keznit and rossy. Both of which have strong personalities, and rossy in particular has a history. I honestly love rossy as a player but how many times does this has to happen before it stops being a coincidence
me when I baselessly speculate about players being problematic
jixk [#2]nah i feel like poppin is a good recon talent they for sure need to upgrade eggster he has hit his ceiling here
Yeah but he’s not as influential as poppin in terms of the team dynamic, and there’s an insane free agent upgrade on the market rn in JonahP. Maybe they’ll both be replaced around the same time though.
serot [#16]me when I baselessly speculate about players being problematic
Based on all the information that we know for a fact I made an educated guess and prefaced it by saying it was merely a guess and not a fact. You’re hella smart though don’t worry
Castawaytwizz [#12]clue us in
I went to his history and found out that he used to Coach Keznit for some Argentine team
aiber [#9]rossy has a bad rep
BabyJ's rep is kinda worse though, why do you think he name changed?
Rossy was picked by 3 different T1 teams after he was dropped from C9 and "inspire" was dropped not even finishing his first stage at Tier 1 but somehow that's Rossy's fault.
Vyantic [#21]BabyJ's rep is kinda worse though, why do you think he name changed?
Rossy was picked by 3 different T1 teams after he was dropped from C9 and "inspire" was dropped not even finishing his first stage at Tier 1 but somehow that's Rossy's fault.
Inspire also chose to not play in tier 2 for years
alto [#18]Based on all the information that we know for a fact I made an educated guess and prefaced it by saying it was merely a guess and not a fact. You’re hella smart though don’t worry
people like you are why rossy has such a terrible rep for no reason
It doesn't matter if its a guess, it is not even educated at the least bro
you are just straight up making up fictional narratives for fun about players so that other people can jump the gun and start blaming this player and that player before we even know a single detail
alto [#22]Inspire also chose to not play in tier 2 for years
just say you glaze inspire or hate Rossy broski, is easier that this antic.
serot [#23]people like you are why rossy has such a terrible rep for no reason
It doesn't matter if its a guess, it is not even educated at the least bro
you are just straight up making up fictional narratives for fun about players so that other people can jump the gun and start blaming this player and that player before we even know a single detail
What do you think happened? If you had to make a guess right now why do you think there were “internal problems” now despite there not being any internal problems all of last year
Vyantic [#24]just say you glaze inspire or hate Rossy broski, is easier that this antic.
I think rossy is a great player, I don’t agree with this move however, and the only difference between this year and last year that could’ve caused for internal problems is that keznit and rossy were picked up
alto [#25]What do you think happened? If you had to make a guess right now why do you think there were “internal problems” now despite there not being any internal problems all of last year
because they started losing? because the stakes are much higher now? players are gonna get heated?
NV were full dominating tier 2 for a year and nobody is gonna be mad when you win every single game...
serot [#28]because they started losing? because the stakes are much higher now? players are gonna get heated?
NV were full dominating tier 2 for a year and nobody is gonna be mad when you win every single game...
They lost plenty of times in tier 2 including losing a regional grand final and losing in ascension group stage. If you’re suggesting losing 2 bo3’s, 1 of which came at the hands of the best team in the region, was enough to naturally break this team without any other ulterior motives at play, you are mistaken.
alto [#30]They lost plenty of times in tier 2 including losing a regional grand final and losing in ascension group stage. If you’re suggesting losing 2 bo3’s, 1 of which came at the hands of the best team in the region, was enough to naturally break this team without any other ulterior motives at play, you are mistaken.
losing a couple meaningless group stage matches and games post ascension qualification in tier 2 after dominating all year
vs
losing in a tier 1 masters qualification tournament where every game matters
these two are the same according to you?
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