Sentinel role is a lie

More I dig in the data more I believe and all of you are wrong when they say the roles are Dulist, Initiator, Sentinel, Controller, Flex is wrong as hell.

Duelist and Controller do exist, I agree.
You are wrong if you talk about "Initiator role", it's reveal/vision role, not Init anymore, Breach and Kayo is in a different role.

What are the 2 last role ? Main Yoru and main Viper :
Yoru role is an offensive playmaker role that fit more the gameplay of a Chamber or a Veto when Yoru isn't played.
Viper role is a defensive strategic-lurk role that fit more the gameplay of a Cypher (And stop saying Viper is a Sentinel because she has stalling power, ANY controller have stalling power)

Think about it for a second : you are on map XXX, and on this map you HAVE to play Chamber. Who do you want to play the "sentinel" named Chamber ?
Your sentinel player that is hyper strategic and love Cypher ?
Or your high aim duelist that love playing Jett and Yoru ?
You understand why I mean there.

So here are the 5 roles :

• Duelist (Any duelist)
• Off (2nd Duelist, Senti-off)
• Reveal (Sova, Fade, Skye, some delu team will add Tejo)
• Def (2nd Controller, Senti-def)
• Controller (Any controller)

So then what's the flash init 😭

so flash inis just dont exist anymore? u mention breach/kayo in a diff role and then completely leave them out of roles. i agree they are diff from sova/fade/tejo but they are also played... i would put roles as

Primary duelist
Flex (flash ini, yoru)
Scan (fade, sova)
Lurk (sentinel/viper/astra)
Primary smokes (Omen, Astra, brim)

roles are duelist, smokes, recon, flash and anchor/lurker depending on the half
yoru falls under the flash category

Imo you should commit and fully get rid of Riots roles if you start with it (e.g. what do you mean with "Duelist", because you sure as hell dont mean Iso or Reyna despite them being duelist)

Your definition completely missing kayo in the current meta obviously doesn't help either (but that can be amended by adding "flash" to your 2nd duelist)

Main problem I have is that it doesnt really help construct and "explain" comps
A more fluid system (e.g. Anderzz' that uses the traditional roles, but allows agents to fall into multiple depending on what theyre there for) is just more effective in looking at an individual agents role in a comp

idk why you renamed anchor,entry,flex(flashes sometimes),main smokes,lurk but u got it

Yeah the thing is that while it's hard to pin comps down by role, there's nothing wrong with the current classifications because there will always be comps that don't obey the roles.

So here are the 5 roles :
Duelist (Any duelist)
Off (2nd Duelist, Senti-off)
Reveal (Sova, Fade, Skye, some delu team will add Tejo)
Def (2nd Controller, Senti-def)
Controller (Any controller)

Let's take no-duelist comps, like Chamber comps in 2022 or Icebox comps in 2024/5.
Comp A: Sova/Fade/KAYO/Chamber/Astra
Comp B: Sova/Omen/Viper/Killjoy/Sage

For comp A would you have: KAYO Duelist, Fade Off, Sova Reveal, Chamber Def, Astra Controller? or switch Chamber and KAY/O or Fade?
For comp B would you have: Omen Duelist, Sage Off, Sova Reveal, Killjoy Def, Viper Controller?

Riot's roles are not the best for describing agents, but they work mostly within compositions. Before 2026, most comps had one of each + a flex. Will there be exceptions? Definitely. But that doesn't mean the system itself is flawed.

STOP THAT ALL YAPPING BULLSHIT. HERE ARE THE MOST TRUSTWORTHY MOST SUCCINCT ROLES DIVISION:

1. ENTRY: self-enhance stats like movement (neon, jett, waylay,...), fire power (raze rocket, neon laser, chamber op), survivability (iso shield, reyna catching soul to escape or self-heal, yoru teleport,...)
2. AREAL MANIPULATION: areal clearing checking info (recons, fade dog, skype dog, drone,...), areal imposing negative effect (flash, stun, explode, fire, ...), areal obstructing(smoke, wall, walking wall like harbor iso,...)
3. DEFENDER: able to guard an area without man presence or active action (for example killjoy alarm bot vs sova drone both detect enemies but alarm bot is auto doesnt need player attention)