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tua
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Doesn’t sound like crazy talk
He’s just saying two players are star and the others are normal

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FerrariFrog
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nothing but facts

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Ross
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What did he say that was wrong?

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dimmed
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What is so crazy about what he said? Like you want him to put Tex, Mazino or Verno on the same pillar as Aspas or Zekken???

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SleepingSnorlax
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lol forgetting Verno time to diff Ethan again

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dimmed [#5]

What is so crazy about what he said? Like you want him to put Tex, Mazino or Verno on the same pillar as Aspas or Zekken???

verno is though

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not a crazy thing to say although i disagree because verno and mazino are above average support players

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Wolfed
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hes not giving Verno enough credit there imo

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foythvlr [#8]

not a crazy thing to say although i disagree because verno and mazino are above average support players

facts mazino in prime form whenever he plays with aspas

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not crazy but he’s heavily underselling verno

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splashglazer [#10]

facts mazino in prime form whenever he plays with aspas

MR Icebox not to forget

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Justsomebum
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tex is his boy from nrg, so he's obviously not shit talking them

I think his point is just that their strats are heavily centered around aspas doing his job as the spearhead (as is the norm with any aspas teams)

So shutting that down is logically the main concern

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Ethan and FNS dropped Verno together, so it'd be nice to see Verno smack up the 2x Worlds VCT Champion Ethan up.
Both really amazing players nonetheless.

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zekken_on_adderall [#7]

verno is though

NO HE IS NOT. Like Verno is good but he ain't even top 3 in his in Americas. Aspas and Zekken are top 3 Americas duelist.

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SleepingSnorlax [#6]

lol forgetting Verno time to diff Ethan again

in terms of trophies?

#17
Divine_Thunder
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nrg lost when aspas was having an off day is all im gonna say

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Divine_Thunder [#17]

nrg lost when aspas was having an off day is all im gonna say

they also won against aspas when he had an on day

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two time world champ, he says what he wants. he can call aspas his son even and u just gotta take it its just trophy diff

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verno has outcalled him on every matchup

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catNmouse [#18]

they also won against aspas when he had an on day

aspas dropped 80, xenom and artzin combined had 87

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https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2682/vct-2026-americas-kickoff

johnkd and a guy with 40 rounds played are the only higher rated players than verno btw

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Divine_Thunder [#21]

aspas dropped 80, xenom and artzin combined had 87

Aspsas dropped 80, Verno and Xenom combined had 85

(Like don't get me wrong Verno is good but he's not an X factor like Zekken is, or a star like Aspas)

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dimmed [#23]

Aspsas dropped 80, Verno and Xenom combined had 85

(Like don't get me wrong Verno is good but he's not an X factor like Zekken is, or a star like Aspas)

verno is the igl bro chill on him. bro was kicked from nrg for "not being too vocal" and he is currently an igl. he is doing a pretty good job at it

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Divine_Thunder [#24]

verno is the igl bro chill on him. bro was kicked from nrg for "not being too vocal" and he is currently an igl. he is doing a pretty good job at it

ok not denying he's a good IGL but that's wasn't Ethan's point, he said MIBR's 2 stand out players are Aspas and Zekken which is not crazy to say at all

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macncheese [#19]

two time world champ, he says what he wants. he can call aspas his son even and u just gotta take it its just trophy diff

fluked both champs. aspas clears that trashcan

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dimmed [#25]

ok not denying he's a good IGL but that's wasn't Ethan's point, he said MIBR's 2 stand out players are Aspas and Zekken which is not crazy to say at all

its because these 2 are so good that they make verno and mazino look normal.

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DaBetz [#26]

fluked both champs. aspas clears that trashcan

i think ask aspas and he'd trade his whole career for ethans. like i said, its just trophy diff nothing against aspas he might be the best player but yea

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DaBetz [#26]

fluked both champs. aspas clears that trashcan

neither trophies were a fluke but ethan is just not all that

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macncheese [#28]

i think ask aspas and he'd trade his whole career for ethans. like i said, its just trophy diff nothing against aspas he might be the best player but yea

nah i think hes good being the goat

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Ethan legit the most overrated player in the game all cos he knows a few flash line-ups, he seems like a chill guy and a good teammate tho so I will give him that

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MindGoblin1 [#31]

Ethan legit the most overrated player in the game all cos he knows a few flash line-ups, he seems like a chill guy and a good teammate tho so I will give him that

it’s not even that, he won IGL of the year despite doing literally nothing until stage 2 and champs

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MindGoblin1 [#31]

Ethan legit the most overrated player in the game all cos he knows a few flash line-ups, he seems like a chill guy and a good teammate tho so I will give him that

Ah yes Champs Map 5 23 kills on breach to close out what couldve been a reverse sweep. Game changing clutch against C9 to take them to Champs. Ah yes all he can do is flash lmfao. Funny coming from a FNATIC fan lol

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Crypto_816 [#33]

Ah yes Champs Map 5 23 kills on breach to close out what couldve been a reverse sweep. Game changing clutch against C9 to take them to Champs. Ah yes all he can do is flash lmfao. Funny coming from a FNATIC fan lol

there are still better igls out there brodie

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catNmouse [#32]

it’s not even that, he won IGL of the year despite doing literally nothing until stage 2 and champs

yeah it's kinda crazy how much people overrate Champs compared to Masters imo they ain't that different Master 1 was kinda mickey for the last couple years tho ngl but I think it's better this year.

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dimmed [#15]

NO HE IS NOT. Like Verno is good but he ain't even top 3 in his in Americas. Aspas and Zekken are top 3 Americas duelist.

Verno is FOR SURE a Top 3 initiator in Americas. (Top 1 right now) and the best MIBR player so far because of his consistency on both games while being the IGL

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DaBetz [#34]

there are still better igls out there brodie

Only IGL that is better than Ethan in Americas is Valyn. There are probably 2 IGL's that are better(just calling) in EMEA and probably 2 in Pac. Which mean even if you think they are better he is still a top 6 IGL in the world lmfao.

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