I'm snowed in, its roster time.

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100T rebuild:
JonahP Flex
Bang Smokes
Timotino Duelist
Vora Scan/IGL
Alvinboy Senti

NBS HC
D00mBr0s AC

100T's roster is fine, but it can definitely be upgraded. Jonah for asuna, Any flex player would be an upgrade from this man I'm sorry. Either way, JonahP is a great player who definitely deserves a franchise spot and I feel he could work here. Alvin for cryo, Alvin comes in and is able to complete the TSM core that 100T have set up. Alvin comes in, plays with his old IGL, Coach, and duelist, and he wasn't too bad on that tsm roster either. He gives 100T more senti options than Chamber/Veto, as much as I love Cryo, Chamber every game isn't going to hold up in the long run. Then Keep Bang, Bang is the best smokes player CURRENTLY in NA, change my fucking mind. Aside from Asuna/Cryo 100T have something that can be great. They have a TSM core started, a great smokes player, Just replace the two blind guys and we're set.

My Cloud9 Idea

Demon1/Oxy Duelist
V1c Smokes
JonahP Flex/IGL
C0M Scans/Midround
Serial/Olizera/Cortezia Senti
Immi Coach

I feel Demon1 could actually improve this C9 roster. I understand the situation that Oxy is in and I'm not trying to say he's bad or should be dropped. I just like how Demon1 Looks on this roster, him and Oxy are interchangeable here. If you go with demon1, he's a player that really benefits from a good supporting cast and I think that this team could do that very well for him. It's criminal that JonahP wasn't picked up by any tier 1 roster. I know I mentioned him earlier but I honestly think he's a player that could improve any team he's put on atm. I think that with his experience he could lead this team very well. C0M is a great scan player, taking him off that IGL role on EG allows him to play his own game a bit more while still providing for the team. Serial may seem like an odd choice, but really think about it. Serial did a pretty good job on liquid all things considered, he played very well in kickoff last year on roles he's not very comfortable on. He's clearly got what it takes for tier 1 valorant, and I think his playstyle would be good for this team. Cortezia is here for similar reasons, but I think that he'd be good for team mental as well, similar to what zellsis was for sen. Now for Olizera, I know he didn't do good on that Apeks roster, but any player you put on that team would've looked terrible, it was fucking apeks for crying out loud. But that aside, Olizera is a great senti player all around. He's currently playing for UCAM Esports club and putting up some decent numbers against pretty good teams. I feel C9 could use him. I see nothing wrong with keeping v1c, great player, good smokes, he can stay.

My Ultimate Americas Roster:
Aspas Duelist
Valyn Smokes/Igl
Trent Scans
Leaf Flex
Tex Senti
JoshRT coach

I think this roster does very good if it were to exist. You have one of NA's best cores in G2 with a great senti player and the world's best duelist. Leaf gets to use his wide agent pool alongside his old scanner and Igl from G2. Tex already played with Valyn and Trent on the guard, and seems very comfortable playing senti so I see no reason not to add him. Then Aspas is aspas, need I explain more?

I don't see any flaws in this roster, if you wanna run double duelist then you have aspas/Leaf or Aspas/Tex depending on map and comfort. You have a solid core with Leaf,Valyn,Trent, and technically Tex? And you have the best duelist in the world. Name me ONE issue with this roster I will wait.

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foythvlr

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jonahp igling with c0m on the same team and demon1 as duelist? yeah 12th

dropping cryo is also insane as hes showing a pretty decent viper

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Madouza

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Pretty decent Viper, but when we want a senti it's either Chamber or an Okay veto. anyone with half a brain knows that picking up someone who can Viper AND senti is a far better Idea.

Also, Demon1 and Oxy both work on that roster so if you don't want demon1 then Oxy won't go anywhere.
JonahP wouldn't be playing scans as he typically didn't on the guard or G2, that was trent's job. C0m would just be doing what trent does usually. C0m sucks as an IGL, Jonah has more experience with better players and better strats. C0m gets to play his game much better without the weight of leading on his shoulders.

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foythvlr

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Sentis are not vital anymore. You can use viper every map and chamber/veto on the ones you want more traditional flank holders. Cryo fits perfectly in this and hes a thousand times better than alvinboy

C0m gets to play his game much better without the weight of leading on his shoulders.

This implies c0m goes triple negative because hes igling when hes just terrible individually lol

Having c0m and jonahp on the same team is like having negative firepower. Also we don't know how Jonahp igling is since he never did

also demon1 DOES NOT work on that roster. you're seeing a guy frying on chamber and wants him to play dive when hes terrible at it? be serious rn

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ANHTU

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EG if they want a full half viet:
infiltrator (Duelist)
Okeanos (Flex)
bao (Sentinel)
supamen (Controller)
Derrek (IGL + Initiator)

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Madouza

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Yk...thats actually not a bad roster...its not good, but its not awful-

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supamid is right there

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Madouza

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I SAID NOT AWFUL...Not GOOD, but not AWFUL. you got 4 other competent people

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supamid makes the team supamid, not really even competitive tbh

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Acethyr

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i think the current 100t roster is like 57x better

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Madouza

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I think you're smoking some very good crack and are probably blind.

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Acethyr

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asuna is currently 0.47 apr 3rd highest in the tournament and cryo is cryo
just a downgrade for no reason

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Madouza

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Ofc he is, all of americas sucks, an empty soda can in the trash can is gonna shine brighter than the plastic and other trash surrounding it. But why settle for an empty soda can when you can have a Full one.

Also, calling JonahP a downgrade is fucking insane.

Also Also, Cryo may not be bad, But I don't think the "chamber meta" copium that 100T fans are huffing is real, I'd much rather a team have a solid senti that can play chamber AND other sentinels at a high level.

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Acethyr

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i was insinuating that the roster is a downgrade not jonahp as a player being worse than anyone
this current roster would function 2000x better, jonah doesnt work in this team because he cant play duelist if ever needed. cryo's yoru is shit and if 100t wants to run double duel asuna will be the one on yoru. his yoru is actually really good

idk what you said above that but americas is the best region rn by far

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Madouza

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Americas is awful, Only competitive teams are gonna be G2, NRG, and maybe MIBR if that roster doesnt end up being a trainwreck.

Double duelist isn't a requirement, it's nice to have, but valorant is the type of game where you can win with nearly any comp on any map if you have the right strats. Keeping one of the historically worst players in americas because you want double duelist is not justifiable when there are so many upgrades to choose from, you have Trent, Victor, JonahP, Fucking Derrek even. If you want Double duelist, theres STILL better choices than Asuna.

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Acethyr

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you listed 3 teams that would be at the top of every other region and it likely wouldnt be close, 100t would be with them too

double duel isnt a requirement, you're right. but it's a part of the current meta. dropping someone who functions in that meta for someone who doesn't is legit cryptothrowing

also asuna was NEVER one of the worst players in americas, idk where you people got this idea from. he was incredible in 2021, then after that was an above average player, not insane, not bad.

none of the players you listed there are upgrades over asuna. trent is a recon ini player, victor is worse, jonahp doesnt fill duelist, derrek is scan ini and worse than asuna.

literally 2 of the players you listed dont even play the same role as him, what is this shit

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Madouza

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Okay, Fine, keep asuna, but 100T should still grab alvinboy and complete the TSM core, I don't really see a good reason for them not to. That was the main point I wanted to make with this concept. Why have a senti player that ONLY plays Chamber/Veto/Viper when you can have a senti player who can play Chamber/Veto/Viper as well as Cypher/Kj/Vyse? You're walling yourself out of so many possible comps that could be great for this team. You can win with any team comp in this game, so be diverse. Why would you remove the option to play those other 3 sentinels?

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Acethyr

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i think your take would be valid if the meta shifts and trad sentis are needed again, but thats not the case rn whatsoever
kj cypher and vyse are literally horrendous
cryo can play sage veto and is probably the best chamber itw. his viper isn't as good as id like it to be but its fine, its a new agent im sure hell get the hang of it eventually

for the future, yeah i agree w you. someone who plays trad sentis would be better. but rn in this meta, i would keep cryo 110%

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Madouza

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wait cryo plays sage I thought that was ASUNA's job?

continue thread →

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foythvlr

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Victor? Bro you don't actually watch americas do you lmfao

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Araise

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demon1 is not a duelist player nrg 2024 already proved that

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Madouza

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2023 EG also proved he's a good duelist when he has actual support behind him.

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changing too much for 100T i think asuna is the only player they really need an upgrade for and most likely should be seven just because hes worked with vora/timo and brings insane firepower

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Madouza

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Alvinboy played with them more recently and had better results, I felt Alvinboy would be a safer pick. That's a good point though, seven might work too.

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Pomshies

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ngl you downgraded both rosters somehow

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Madouza

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I genuinely forgot he even played sage in the past, I thought that was always asuna’s role.

Also, kj is still a goated pick for pearl/haven and cypher has his niche on bind. They’re definitely not completely. Vyse is pretty trash though I will agree with you there. Even so you shouldn’t not have the OPTION to play those agents, sure chamber is overall BETTER, but thats like saying a duelist shouldn’t play raze/jett, sure you can be a great team with just waylay/yoru, but having the option to play the others is always great!

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Madouza

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I genuinely forgot he even played sage in the past, I thought that was always asuna’s role.

Also, kj is still a goated pick for pearl/haven and cypher has his niche on bind. They’re definitely not completely useless. Vyse is pretty trash though I will agree with you there. Even so you shouldn’t not have the OPTION to play those agents, sure chamber is overall BETTER, but thats like saying a duelist shouldn’t play raze/jett, sure you can be a great team with just waylay/yoru, but having the option to play the others is always great!

(I commented this in the wrong thread mb.)

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my-dad-ate-my-toes

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Ngl Asuna been kinda fragging lately, maybe being in Raze jail was his limiting factor all along