how much of world history y'all think is fabricated
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History is written by the winner
There is a reason why Napoleon is barely covered even tho he drove a lot of change and is one of the main reasons why the world is like this rn, talking about the positive aspects of course
You can't really say that
Historians have needed to establish through multiple sources that are reliable usually, the series of events that are usually made by 1 source are deliberately said to be speculative
im not saying everything is fabricated. but generally many things are fabricated. thats why historians also prefer to use outside sources/literature and other stuff
the most basic example i can give you is ( it cannot be really called as "fabricated" but sort of to back up as to what i said prior)
in india, there was a battle between "Maharana Pratap" and "Akbar" called the battle of haldighati
in mughal sources, it is cited that maharana pratap fled the battlefield when he started to lose
in some other regional sources, it is that maharana pratap's horse which was called "chetak" got wounded and the horse fled to protect maharana pratap and later died after getting him to safety.
so this is the basic example as to how there are always 2 ends of a story. historians used literature from other parts to understand what happened asw.
then there is story of megasthenes asw
Does this count as a successful fabrication though?
The main idea was that he lost the battle, and whether or not he fled the battle or not is entirely up for debate
Some things in history we cannot definitively prove (especially the finer details of events), and in those cases we just mention the possibilities and move on.
History by and large is reliable up to a point, where the archeological and literary record enables some level of recordkeeping.
The main takeaway I have is that most of history is almost entirety reliable after taking in context from multiple sources. What you mention is a mixture of historical uncertainty and revisionist history by a single side, and it is entirely up to you to believe what you want in these cases. It does not undermine the legitimacy of the history we as a global society understand to be true.
hell tf yes, it's one of the main things me and my history teacher talks about after class
I mean if you just base it off of today’s world where everything is a lie I’d say 40%.
A LOT
Japans actions during the 2nd World War are basically never told, sure yes they werent as bad as germanys but they were up there
i would imagine that wrongdoings are completly wiped out of the history book by the country that published it and did them
we Germans atleast aknowledge our past in WW2, we go into detail to make sure that future generations try to avoid doing the same mistake
historians need basically like 20 different history books from different countries just to get a clearer picture i would imagine (overexaggerating)
the world forgot abt them / forgave them becuz they got pokemon and cuz they act cute
Don't forget that the USA helped them
The occupying United States government undertook the selective cover-up of some Japanese war crimes after the end of World War II in Asia, granting political immunity to military personnel who had engaged in human experimentation and other crimes against humanity, predominantly in mainland China.
From wikipedia
I'm pretty sure that during the Nuremberg trials, the USA also reduced the prison sentences for many nazis after the Nuremberg trials, as to use them against the 'greater evil'
i always find it crazy that the things the Japanese did weren't more mainstream due to the Atom Bomb being used like to justify it
It's funny because the Soviet invasion of Manchuko contributed more to Japanese surrender than the bombs
its all about propaganda
in 1950s 90% of the people thought ussr defeated the nazi (which is true)
in 2000s only 10% people think the same way, all due to propaganda
sometime doesnt even matter if the facts are spilled in ur face, people want to believe in what they want to
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."
-Dr. Goebbels
I remember what happened last Wednesday.
I definetly got created before the universe exists.
for most of public schools history here in the UK kids were taught that the British empire was good actually lmao
Also they never talk about Eastern Front of WW1 or 2, and they always portray Russia as kinda like the villain
fun fact: even to this day paraguay usually portrait brazil as villain due to the war between those 2 countries in the past
I don't what you learnt but I was defo wasn't taught the Empire was good. I do generally agree that British education doesn't go into detail at all over the problems they caused by colonisation or the aftereffects of colonisation after they "gave" countries independence
lol like a good 60-95% anywhere from that range you never get the full side or story ever
everyone says history is fabricated but then how am i supposed to learn it when i want to
Read records from multiple sources, for example if youre learning about imperial japan then read from chinese records, korean, american, and lastly japanese, but yea no need to tryhard dis much
Yes, most of it is fabricated or blatant propaganda. In America our schools dont even try to hide it, they glorify shitty people like Christopher Columbus and justify atrocities committed against natives calling it "destiny"
almost everything we know about ancient persia comes from greek authors. to show how problematic that is it’d be like trying to understand the soviet union only through texts written by anticommunist americans during the cold war.
and thats just a small example of how distorted historical narratives can be, depending on who is telling the story and what interests they had at the time.
I mean you should be clearer in what you mean but yeah many sides of history arent brought to light as much. Its what my history teacher always said, the winners decides.
Aiming to show that the narrative as we know is never the full part of the story
If it's about national history, then almost all of it (for it to fit the country propaganda or vision). It's not always the winners who decide it.
Unless you have teachers who's knowledge are deep enough to teach you multiple versions history AND able to discern the "false part", you will always get the propaganda version of the history.
Not that it's completely false. But definetly altered from the true version of it.
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