ethan < chronicle if they played in this league
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Chron has chance to shut everyone up next year by winning something with another team
Trophy argument is so weak, there’s a bunch of players with nearly as many trophies as Chron and a lot of champs winners that need only one more to tie Ethan
Weakass goat argument
Neither of them are the goat
Brawk/mada/demon1/jawg carried Ethan and alfajer/leo/derke carried Chron
Then who’s the goat bro. At the end of the day they play competitive games to win trophies. If that wasn’t the goal they can just stream and make more money than competing.
It’s a team game
If this was a 1v1 game then trophies = goat, but it’s a team game, a team game where riot constantly changes the meta and adds super op characters
The goat list is NEVER only on trophy count in ANY team game or sport usually
I mean if you believe that. Messi Ronaldo were only differentiated by their team trophies to award either of them a ballon d’or each year for a decade. Stats were almost always the same for them in a team setting, it’s getting into nitty gritty to talk about their supporting casts. But ultimately their team trophies decided their year.
Messi scored 4-5 penalties to go on to win World Cup. No one is talking about that. All they remember by is that he has a World Cup.
skuba was heavily underrated in nrg’s champs run i think he is better than mada imo
the next one is not gonna come until 2030 if mods decide to HOPEFULLY ban goat debates until 2030
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