how do i play bind defense

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https://tracker.gg/valorant/match/90a0a6c4-bb04-44d6-a20e-f8ffc82f1080
decent game overall ig but i went 5/12 on defense
i usually just try to contest a long or a short aggro but i was finding zero value on defense
thankfully when we swapped to attack i had much more impact

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clove's role on ct bind is to stay in spawn to smoke for both sides and fast rotate to the site they're hitting

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I_LOVE_LESS [#2]

clove's role on ct bind is to stay in spawn to smoke for both sides and fast rotate to the site they're hitting

my neon got pissed when i smoked he told me "bro bro smoker on defense bad" and threatened to throw if i kept smoking
avg bahrain experience

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9wntr [#3]

my neon got pissed when i smoked he told me "bro bro smoker on defense bad" and threatened to throw if i kept smoking
avg bahrain experience

so this is what we call a mute all and play scenario

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typically whenever playing defense, you want to try to control a lane (typically either showers or B Long) so that you have more information and more controlled space. Whenever retaking A, it's incredibly powerful to have showers control, as it can threaten a flank to short, as well as providing a quicker rotate for your teammates on B. Essentially the same thing for B Long control minus the quicker rotate

if playing smokes just take i_love_less's advice

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What I do as smokes is either play in the B site cubby or lamps to be able to smoke either hookah or short

If that gets boring I take a teammate with me and we take showers early just leave one there and rotate

What is also a quite neat spot when Ure pretty sure they’re hitting a is on the small trashcan in back of site

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zoras [#6]

What I do as smokes is either play in the B site cubby or lamps to be able to smoke either hookah or short

If that gets boring I take a teammate with me and we take showers early just leave one there and rotate

What is also a quite neat spot when Ure pretty sure they’re hitting a is on the small trashcan in back of site

Can also do the showers play on long, smoke deep long take orb insert one leave (or crossfire optionally)

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well idk what is the right play, but what i usually do is play b hookah ( only place i cant smoke from there is showers) and try to catch their lurker if any but if not then i activate my lurk on them, i do a similar thing by playing on A short u hall, other things i do are like smoking off the enemy showers entry point and playing either around that smoke or inside that smoke if they have done shower pushes/ executes, u can do a similar thing of playing in ur own smoke by smoking off the a short deeper point , thats what i do

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if youre playing 3-2 or 2-3, the side with 2 is supposed to take control of a lane

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Wolfed [#9]

if youre playing 3-2 or 2-3, the side with 2 is supposed to take control of a lane

we played 2 a most rounds but i just got stomped trying to control lane

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9wntr [#10]

we played 2 a most rounds but i just got stomped trying to control lane

noob start shooting back maybe 💔

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9wntr [#3]

my neon got pissed when i smoked he told me "bro bro smoker on defense bad" and threatened to throw if i kept smoking
avg bahrain experience

if you can pick up viper use her q as a one way on a short and you can also use to smoke off hookah
just watch sen vs tl master bankok for defense wall lineups they work pretty well in sliver only on defense tho

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Wolfed [#11]

noob start shooting back maybe 💔

im silver 1 bro relax
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On smokers you need to understand whether you want to keep the enemy out or the enemy in. I've seen suggestions in this thread saying that you should play from spawn and smoke. This is only going to work if your team is either holding angles that benefit from smokes or if you're trying to keep the enemy team out to allow your team to rotate. Both of these require information and decision making on your part.

If you're not playing around your own smokes then your goal is to get your team into the site to retake. You will want to use a minimal amount or get your smoke timing rotation which allows you have enough time to smoke bomb and play around bomb.

If you're playing retake with your team and you get into site with your smokes intact then you're trying to eliminate angles to allow your team to take more spaces or deny vision to the enemy team to create advantageous situations for your team. If you're taking the dice route this means eliminating the uhaul and teleport angle while your team to clear showers. Then smoking box to take site control.

Also buy a shorty. There are so many opportunities for you to force an enemy player to have to take your smoke blindly.

If you're playing B, it's the same situation. Your goal should be to get your teammates into the site.

TL;DR: Do not smoke off execute. Use your smokes strategically to achieve your goals of taking space and getting your teammates into advantageous attacking positions.

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