what idiotic beef did you start with someone this time
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actual insane that he's still like this even after Frost left, guess Frost was right, mf is racist
Wotah [#3]actual insane that he's still like this even after Frost left, guess Frost was right, mf is racist
? he’s completely fine with everyone else, just not the ppl that accused him of cheating or the ppl that agreed/supported/fueled the accusations
merciless-pity8989-89 [#4]? he’s completely fine with everyone else, just not the ppl that accused him of cheating or the ppl that agreed/supported/fueled the accusations
what did Jovi do exactly?
Also, the entire beef with Frost was from how racist t0rm0 was toward him offstream, which lead to the no fistbump, it has nothing to do with scrim-sharing accusation. Frost confirmed this in his podcast.
Wotah [#5]what did Jovi do exactly?
Also, the entire beef with Frost was from how racist t0rm0 was toward him offstream, which lead to the no fistbump, it has nothing to do with scrim-sharing accusation. Frost confirmed this in his podcast.
termi clearly mentioned there were near zero interaction between himself and frost until frost suddenly decided to disrespect him
Calling termi racist when fr0st is the one who called out koreans as a whole in his podcast.. lmao
merciless-pity8989-89 [#4]? he’s completely fine with everyone else, just not the ppl that accused him of cheating or the ppl that agreed/supported/fueled the accusations
afaik Jovi didn't do anything
delighted [#7]afaik Jovi didn't do anything
Jovi tweeted that Termi insulted Frost’s mom
Wotah [#5]what did Jovi do exactly?
Also, the entire beef with Frost was from how racist t0rm0 was toward him offstream, which lead to the no fistbump, it has nothing to do with scrim-sharing accusation. Frost confirmed this in his podcast.
Here’s a list of everything that this beef is about, and yes the beef eventually became about scrim sharing as well
Termi ignored Fr0st when they first met
Fr0st dissed termi several times on his podcast.
Fr0st implied all the kr teams are scrim sharing
Termi said he wasn’t raised right
Fr0st once again says the Kr teams are scrim sharing, implying they all don’t deserve their wins bc they are cheating
Termi called out Fr0st on his bullshit and Fr0st did not respond
Fr0st did not fistbump termi and called him a motherfucker
Termi also said he should leave Pacific and go back to the US(Which he did but he came crawling back bc nobody would offer him a job)
Jovi, his assistant coach at the time, as well as many other of Talon’s staff, actively supported Fr0st in all of this and fueled the accusations as well.
merciless-pity8989-89 [#9]Here’s a list of everything that this beef is about, and yes the beef eventually became about scrim sharing as well
Termi ignored Fr0st when they first met
Fr0st dissed termi several times on his podcast.
Fr0st implied all the kr teams are scrim sharing
Termi said he wasn’t raised right
Fr0st once again says the Kr teams are scrim sharing, implying they all don’t deserve their wins bc they are cheating
Termi called out Fr0st on his bullshit and Fr0st did not respond
Fr0st did not fistbump termi and called him a motherfucker
Termi also said he should leave Pacific and go back to the US(Which he did but he came crawling back bc nobody would offer him a job)
Jovi, his assistant coach at the time, as well as many other of Talon’s staff, actively supported Fr0st in all of this and fueled the accusations as well.
Any proper source? Seems like you made up a lot of this things cause I don't remember some of these happening between frost and termi.
smallderp [#6]termi clearly mentioned there were near zero interaction between himself and frost until frost suddenly decided to disrespect him
Calling termi racist when fr0st is the one who called out koreans as a whole in his podcast.. lmao
Koreans as a whole is crazy.
Mango34 [#11]Any proper source? Seems like you made up a lot of this things cause I don't remember some of these happening between frost and termi.
check the mega thread on reddit
40 years of age and he refuses a simple fist bump over something that happened ages ago
SENfns [#14]40 years of age and he refuses a simple fist bump over something that happened ages ago
Is this fistbump really that important to yall?
merciless-pity8989-89 [#15]Is this fistbump really that important to yall?
no its the principle of sportsmanship
you can't be a grown man and whining about something happening in a heated competitive scene
UrWaifu [#2]genuinely, what did Jovi do to him?
jovi is in kahoots with his archnemesis of frost
SENfns [#16]no its the principle of sportsmanship
you can't be a grown man and whining about something happening in a heated competitive scene
worse things have happened and nobody bats an eye. I’m pretty sure vlr user care more about this than jovi himself.
So funny you said that, bc when Fr0st did everyone found it funny asf and loved the drama, but when termi does it, all of a sudden it’s unsportsmanlike
merciless-pity8989-89 [#18]worse things have happened and nobody bats an eye. I’m pretty sure vlr user care more about this than jovi himself.
So funny you said that, bc when Fr0st did everyone found it funny asf and loved the drama, but when termi does it, all of a sudden it’s unsportsmanlike
we get it you've never played organised team sports 👍
Mango34 [#11]Any proper source? Seems like you made up a lot of this things cause I don't remember some of these happening between frost and termi.
he isnt making any of this up, I have seen the same reddit threads and can confirm
also it was additonally worsened by the fact that serveral times translators have either completely or partially mistranslated what termi said in interviews about fr0st and it has made the beef MUCH worse
https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/1mprgso/why_frost_dont_like_termi_spiketalk_episode_39/
here is a pretty comprehensive summary of fr0st's POV
also who the fuck is downfragging all the comments telling the truth
the interviews and evidence is literally out there, what is there to disagree with...
merciless-pity8989-89 [#18]worse things have happened and nobody bats an eye. I’m pretty sure vlr user care more about this than jovi himself.
So funny you said that, bc when Fr0st did everyone found it funny asf and loved the drama, but when termi does it, all of a sudden it’s unsportsmanlike
Don't try to explain that to the Vlrlians
They won't listen and won't try to
Its just wasting time
SENfns [#19]we get it you've never played organised team sports 👍
he couldnt even come out to the talon guys in regular season shows he has lack of sportsmanship like hes got shit with frost and ya ok but the players didnt do shit to you
SENfns [#19]we get it you've never played organised team sports 👍
Some of the greatest rivalries in sports history are bc both side hate each other. If you’ve never experienced this i’m afraid you haven’t gotten to a high enough level.
merciless-pity8989-89 [#23]Some of the greatest rivalries in sports history are bc both side hate each other. If you’ve never experienced this i’m afraid you haven’t gotten to a high enough level.
Isn't this the complete opposite of the take you had back during the original termi drama
Wotah [#3]actual insane that he's still like this even after Frost left, guess Frost was right, mf is racist
?? he's never been he just doesnt fuck with people who accuse him? isnt that normal? also it was frost and jovi who started it not him, termi was still gonna shake his hand too
delighted [#10]interesting
and this was all a mistranslation which conveniently neither jovi or fr0st bothered to clarify
Effluxi [#24]Isn't this the complete opposite of the take you had back during the original termi drama
I never had a problem with him not fist bumping. I don’t even think I was watching that match.
I had a problem with him losing and then hopping on twitter right after to accuse termi of disrespecting his mom
smallderp [#6]termi clearly mentioned there were near zero interaction between himself and frost until frost suddenly decided to disrespect him
Calling termi racist when fr0st is the one who called out koreans as a whole in his podcast.. lmao
tbf from fr0st's POV termi apparently gave him the cold shoulder several times when he was trying to be friendly initially
idk if it was just a misunderstanding or what but fr0st's initial impression was that termi did not like him from their first meeting onwards
(downfragged for stating factual information????)
serot [#20]he isnt making any of this up, I have seen the same reddit threads and can confirm
also it was additonally worsened by the fact that serveral times translators have either completely or partially mistranslated what termi said in interviews about fr0st and it has made the beef MUCH worsehttps://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/1mprgso/why_frost_dont_like_termi_spiketalk_episode_39/
here is a pretty comprehensive summary of fr0st's POValso who the fuck is downfragging all the comments telling the truth
the interviews and evidence is literally out there, what is there to disagree with...
some people like the narrative being pushed for their own reasons ^_^
serot [#26]and this was all a mistranslation which conveniently neither jovi or fr0st bothered to clarify
ok bro seriously mistranslations like this shit needs to stop
serot [#20]he isnt making any of this up, I have seen the same reddit threads and can confirm
also it was additonally worsened by the fact that serveral times translators have either completely or partially mistranslated what termi said in interviews about fr0st and it has made the beef MUCH worsehttps://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/1mprgso/why_frost_dont_like_termi_spiketalk_episode_39/
here is a pretty comprehensive summary of fr0st's POValso who the fuck is downfragging all the comments telling the truth
the interviews and evidence is literally out there, what is there to disagree with...
Well according to that post the beef betwn frost and termi doesn't really seem to be related to scrims sharing and stuff while the guy above is actually exaggerating some of the stuff like trying to make it seem frost has been the main problem in this beef. But according to the post it seems like both are equally at fault and kids in adult body.
Ngl getting a feeling that people defend termi more just cause he is Korean which happens a lot in vlr actually. Both are behaving like kids in reality and both are equally at fault.
archetype [#29]some people like the narrative being pushed for their own reasons ^_^
We know who these "some people" are but you're racist if you point it out lol. It's okay for a lot of them to generalize and dehumanize Korea but it's apparently Koreans that are racists
Mango34 [#31]Well according to that post the beef betwn frost and termi doesn't really seem to be related to scrims sharing and stuff while the guy above is actually exaggerating some of the stuff like trying to make it seem frost has been the main problem in this beef. But according to the post it seems like both are equally at fault and kids in adult body.
Ngl getting a feeling that people defend termi more just cause he is Korean which happens a lot in vlr actually. Both are behaving like kids in reality and both are equally at fault.
You have a severe confirmation bias if you think people in vlr protects Termi of all people. And even if they did it sure as hell wouldn't be "because he's Korean". Sea people and Indians on the internet hates Korea and 99% of the Asians on this site are non east Asians.
SENfns [#16]no its the principle of sportsmanship
you can't be a grown man and whining about something happening in a heated competitive scene
it's especially ironic considering Termi was the one who called Frost unsportsmanlike first, yet here he is refusing to be sportsmanlike with someone who had fuck all to do with it except for being Frost's co-worker LMAOO
HyunminFanboy [#34]You have a severe confirmation bias if you think people in vlr protects Termi of all people. And even if they did it sure as hell wouldn't be "because he's Korean". Sea people and Indians on the internet hates Korea and 99% of the Asians on this site are non east Asians.
Lol sea and indian people are some of the biggest Korea glazers too in the internet. Again just my observation but Koreans pros or teams being glazed is what I have noticed for some time now in vlr. For example I have seen people glaze mid players or teams suddenly if they are korean even though they would never have known about those players or teams in past. Nothing wrong with that but people generally do have certain biasness towards Korean and Japanese pros and teams in vlr. Just what I have noticed.
merciless-pity8989-89 [#4]? he’s completely fine with everyone else, just not the ppl that accused him of cheating or the ppl that agreed/supported/fueled the accusations
Flair
Mango34 [#36]Lol sea and indian people are some of the biggest Korea glazers too in the internet. Again just my observation but Koreans pros or teams being glazed is what I have noticed for some time now in vlr. For example I have seen people glaze mid players or teams suddenly if they are korean even though they would never have known about those players or teams in past. Nothing wrong with that but people generally do have certain biasness towards Korean and Japanese pros and teams in vlr. Just what I have noticed.
brother you're arguing with a guy called "HyunminFanboy", you're not gonna be able to get him off DRX's dicks
merciless-pity8989-89 [#27]I never had a problem with him not fist bumping. I don’t even think I was watching that match.
I had a problem with him losing and then hopping on twitter right after to accuse termi of disrespecting his mom
this mad over a ur mom joke is insane dawg
merciless-pity8989-89 [#23]Some of the greatest rivalries in sports history are bc both side hate each other. If you’ve never experienced this i’m afraid you haven’t gotten to a high enough level.
messi and ronaldo have the best rivalry in sports history
definitely do not hate each other
you are just completely clueless
Mango34 [#31]Well according to that post the beef betwn frost and termi doesn't really seem to be related to scrims sharing and stuff while the guy above is actually exaggerating some of the stuff like trying to make it seem frost has been the main problem in this beef. But according to the post it seems like both are equally at fault and kids in adult body.
Ngl getting a feeling that people defend termi more just cause he is Korean which happens a lot in vlr actually. Both are behaving like kids in reality and both are equally at fault.
Nothing in the vlr comment in question is contradicted by the post and it lines up pretty well.
Idk what he is being accused of lying about? The beef didn't start with scrim sharing but the accusations of it certainly made it way worse. Everything he said is true, even the stuff about frost. All he did was diss frost a bit more at the end.
If termi was disrespectful first it was his fault, but if frost misinterpreted termi's initial feelings towards him then it is entirely on him. I am siding with termi here because out of all the other coaches in VCT none have issues with him except for frost afaik. All the shit frost has said is just straight up unsubstantiated, from the initial accusation of termi not liking him to the accusations of scrim sharing. Any disrespect frost has complained about in termi interviews is just grossly mistranslated. Termi has not said anything beyond saying that frost is disrespectful, which is entirely true. Calling your opponent a motherfucker on stage is not respectful. Not fistbumping over some perceived disrespect is also not respectful.
Also not sure why you think being korean makes you more defensible... All I see is one side leaning into supposed impressions of disrespect and making unsubstantiated allegations of scrim sharing.
Mango34 [#36]Lol sea and indian people are some of the biggest Korea glazers too in the internet. Again just my observation but Koreans pros or teams being glazed is what I have noticed for some time now in vlr. For example I have seen people glaze mid players or teams suddenly if they are korean even though they would never have known about those players or teams in past. Nothing wrong with that but people generally do have certain biasness towards Korean and Japanese pros and teams in vlr. Just what I have noticed.
all the sea people fucking hate korean teams bro
idk what you are talking about
nobody but a few people like japanese teams because they suck dick and balls
korean teams have lots of fans because korean teams are good at the game on average
if they were trash nobody would give a shit
SENfns [#40]messi and ronaldo have the best rivalry in sports history
definitely do not hate each other
you are just completely clueless
Nice cherry picking
NebularCarina [#35]it's especially ironic considering Termi was the one who called Frost unsportsmanlike first, yet here he is refusing to be sportsmanlike with someone who had fuck all to do with it except for being Frost's co-worker LMAOO
Yk that’s crazy, he NEVER said that, literally never.
Ppl who defend Fr0st are so stupid, willing to put aside literal facts bc it doesn’t fit their narrative
merciless-pity8989-89 [#44]Nice cherry picking
nadal federer? best friends btw
theres probably 1 in 100 rivalries where they actually hate each other to the point they're unsportsmanlike
if anything YOU would be cherry picking because there's so few cases of it
SENfns [#46]nadal federer? best friends btw
theres probably 1 in 100 rivalries where they actually hate each other to the point they're unsportsmanlike
if anything YOU would be cherry picking because there's so few cases of it
barca madrid,
Ohio Michigan
Boca jrs riverplate(ppl died btw)
Lebron and the entire Celtics big 3
Suarez vs Ghana
Shall i go on?
merciless-pity8989-89 [#48]barca madrid,
Ohio Michigan
Boca jrs riverplate(ppl died btw)
Lebron and the entire Celtics big 3
Suarez vs Ghana
Shall i go on?
nobody hated each other in barca madrid you are not real
and now we're just naming TEAMS rivalries??
"yeah man i love apples"
"oh i just hate fruits in general man"
serot [#43]all the sea people fucking hate korean teams bro
idk what you are talking about
nobody but a few people like japanese teams because they suck dick and ballskorean teams have lots of fans because korean teams are good at the game on average
if they were trash nobody would give a shit
Again as I said it's just what I have noticed happen in vlr or Internet in general. It's just cause of the softpower of Japan and Korea. You are just in denial if you actually think it doesn't happen lol. You are Chinese lol. You should have an idea of what happens to Chinese vs Japanese/Koreans in internet. Well china does get glazed a bit more nowadays. Also I don't know where you got the info that frost accused termi of scrim sharing but I am pretty sure frost actually never accused termi or drx of scrim sharing.
merciless-pity8989-89 [#13]check the mega thread on reddit
- facts exist
- state the facts
- state exactly where to find the information when questioned
vlr: -2 frags
these people just just have their own narrative built and facts wont change it
Re2 [#41]paycheck stealer
carried by his players in champ
time for another 5-6th place finish in champs to extend his contract by 10 years
SENfns [#49]nobody hated each other in barca madrid you are not real
and now we're just naming TEAMS rivalries??"yeah man i love apples"
"oh i just hate fruits in general man"
Moving the goal post, also, I added player rivalries. Did you know that usually if a single player have beef with another hater, their own team would back and same goes for the other team. That’s exactly why I listed suarez and Lebron here as well.
Also, Barca and Real madrid players do hate each other.
Not only the players both both organizations hate each other to the core and are both actively sabotaging each other. As a matter of fact, If you want I will do the work for you and find you a vid that shows just how “unsportsmanlike” they are to each other
merciless-pity8989-89 [#53]Moving the goal post, also, I added player rivalries. Did you know that usually if a single player have beef with another hater, their own team would back and same goes for the other team. That’s exactly why I listed suarez and Lebron here as well.
Also, Barca and Real madrid players do hate each other.
Not only the players both both organizations hate each other to the core and are both actively sabotaging each other. As a matter of fact, If you want I will do the work for you and find you a vid that shows just how “unsportsmanlike” they are to each other
flair
stop arguing you're just wrong
merciless-pity8989-89 [#45]Yk that’s crazy, he NEVER said that, literally never.
Ppl who defend Fr0st are so stupid, willing to put aside literal facts bc it doesn’t fit their narrative
he NEVER said that, literally never
SENfns [#54]flair
stop arguing you're just wrong
Holy, ur so stupid, not capable of even making a cohesive argument without cherry picking
NebularCarina [#55]he NEVER said that, literally never
Oh my, I had no idea Termi had a 2nd job as DRX’s social media manager
merciless-pity8989-89 [#56]Holy, ur so stupid, not capable of even making a cohesive argument without cherry picking
cherry picker calls me a cherry picker 😂😂😂
theres probably millions of rivalries that do not hate each other but nice you named like 5
even if you named me 100 theres probably 1000 that do not hate each other to counteract 🤓
this is like convincing a flat earther that the earth is round
it won't happen cuz you're a diehard drx fan
SENfns [#58]cherry picker calls me a cherry picker 😂😂😂
theres probably millions of rivalries that do not hate each other but nice you named like 5
even if you named me 100 theres probably 1000 that do not hate each other to counteract 🤓this is like convincing a flat earther that the earth is round
it won't happen cuz you're a diehard drx fan
Sure bro, think what you wanna think
merciless-pity8989-89 [#59]Sure bro, think what you wanna think
grass is green but i'm not sure you'll believe me....
see for yourself
serot [#51]
- facts exist
- state the facts
- state exactly where to find the information when questioned
vlr: -2 frags
these people just just have their own narrative built and facts wont change it
- Frost and Termi’s beef wasn’t about scrim sharing, just between them.
- Frost and Termi met for the first time at the coaching table content piece in the first year.
- He went to say “Hello” to Termi and stuck his hand out. Frost thought Termi didn’t see him the first time.
- He met Termi again at the content piece again and said “Bye” to Termi sarcastically. Termi just walks away.
- Frost thought the first time could have been a mistake but when it happened twice, he knew that it wasn’t an accident and thinks that Termi doesn’t like him.
- Frost has already not fistbumped last year and Termi was talking in an interview about how unsportsmanlike, disrespectful Frost was, how their abyss was trash, and etc.
- Babybay clarified if that was the interview that was mistranslated and it wasn’t.
- Frost said that the one mistranslated was that “about his mom”. The correct translation was that “he had bad manners.” A random person posted on social media with English subtitles. > - Frost wasn’t the one that noticed it but a talon person showed it to him. Frost didn’t even talk about it either on any platform.
- After a year of insults and jabs around him, The walkout was starting. Frost looked across and for 30 seconds, Termi didn’t look at him once. This was 3 months ago in Split 1 where did they not fistbump. Frost said “Lets not even fucking pretend bro and mofo lets play the game” in the stage to Termi.
- He said to DRX players when they were in stage “Goodluck, this is between me and Termi.”
- In his scrum interview, it was between him and Termi. He also gave flowers to Mako, and etc.
- Frost didn't expect that people would seem so aghast(shocked) at the fistbump situation when it happened before.
- Frost was confused that if the fistbump was so disrespectful, Why was Termi taking shots about him in interviews.
- If they were going to fistbump or get dapped up, Frost thinks there should be mutual respect.
- Termi insinuated that he wanted to fight Frost in the scrum interview 3 months ago and had an inflammatory interview and Frost said if he said that, what would the discourse be?
- In 25 min of the video, he thinks there is a lot of double standard between him and Termi. Frost said “Are we even talking about the same person, the one with moral ground, calculated, and etc?” If you look at the behavior from both sides, He doesn’t know if those words apply to Termi.
- If Frost had said about the go back to your country stuff, the defenders would have not defended him.
funny how y'all talk abt stating the facts on Reddit, while ignoring the facts stated on Reddit.
hypocrites.
merciless-pity8989-89 [#9]Here’s a list of everything that this beef is about, and yes the beef eventually became about scrim sharing as well
Termi ignored Fr0st when they first met
Fr0st dissed termi several times on his podcast.
Fr0st implied all the kr teams are scrim sharing
Termi said he wasn’t raised right
Fr0st once again says the Kr teams are scrim sharing, implying they all don’t deserve their wins bc they are cheating
Termi called out Fr0st on his bullshit and Fr0st did not respond
Fr0st did not fistbump termi and called him a motherfucker
Termi also said he should leave Pacific and go back to the US(Which he did but he came crawling back bc nobody would offer him a job)
Jovi, his assistant coach at the time, as well as many other of Talon’s staff, actively supported Fr0st in all of this and fueled the accusations as well.
Very unbiased report you termi nuthugger
serot [#17]jovi is in kahoots with his archnemesis of frost
kahoot is crazy work W jovi
NebularCarina [#61]
- Frost and Termi’s beef wasn’t about scrim sharing, just between them.
- Frost and Termi met for the first time at the coaching table content piece in the first year.
- He went to say “Hello” to Termi and stuck his hand out. Frost thought Termi didn’t see him the first time.
- He met Termi again at the content piece again and said “Bye” to Termi sarcastically. Termi just walks away.
- Frost thought the first time could have been a mistake but when it happened twice, he knew that it wasn’t an accident and thinks that Termi doesn’t like him.
- Frost has already not fistbumped last year and Termi was talking in an interview about how unsportsmanlike, disrespectful Frost was, how their abyss was trash, and etc.
- Babybay clarified if that was the interview that was mistranslated and it wasn’t.
- Frost said that the one mistranslated was that “about his mom”. The correct translation was that “he had bad manners.” A random person posted on social media with English subtitles. > - Frost wasn’t the one that noticed it but a talon person showed it to him. Frost didn’t even talk about it either on any platform.
- After a year of insults and jabs around him, The walkout was starting. Frost looked across and for 30 seconds, Termi didn’t look at him once. This was 3 months ago in Split 1 where did they not fistbump. Frost said “Lets not even fucking pretend bro and mofo lets play the game” in the stage to Termi.
- He said to DRX players when they were in stage “Goodluck, this is between me and Termi.”
- In his scrum interview, it was between him and Termi. He also gave flowers to Mako, and etc.
- Frost didn't expect that people would seem so aghast(shocked) at the fistbump situation when it happened before.
- Frost was confused that if the fistbump was so disrespectful, Why was Termi taking shots about him in interviews.
- If they were going to fistbump or get dapped up, Frost thinks there should be mutual respect.
- Termi insinuated that he wanted to fight Frost in the scrum interview 3 months ago and had an inflammatory interview and Frost said if he said that, what would the discourse be?
- In 25 min of the video, he thinks there is a lot of double standard between him and Termi. Frost said “Are we even talking about the same person, the one with moral ground, calculated, and etc?” If you look at the behavior from both sides, He doesn’t know if those words apply to Termi.
- If Frost had said about the go back to your country stuff, the defenders would have not defended him.
funny how y'all talk abt stating the facts on Reddit, while ignoring the facts stated on Reddit.
hypocrites.
Yes bro, we get the point, Fr0st doesn’t like Termi, and Termi doesn’t like Fr0st. They both threw jabs at each other. Literally not a SINGLE soul disputed that fact. What we are talking about is the reason Termi doesn’t like Fr0st.
All you are doing is proving that guys point, you are so up your own ass that you don’t even know what I was arguing.
Mango34 [#50]Again as I said it's just what I have noticed happen in vlr or Internet in general. It's just cause of the softpower of Japan and Korea. You are just in denial if you actually think it doesn't happen lol. You are Chinese lol. You should have an idea of what happens to Chinese vs Japanese/Koreans in internet. Well china does get glazed a bit more nowadays. Also I don't know where you got the info that frost accused termi of scrim sharing but I am pretty sure frost actually never accused termi or drx of scrim sharing.
I think you just have a narrative built up already about Korean team fans and JP team fans... that they are only fans because of KPOP and anime and nothing else. Definitely not because Korean teams just won 2 ascensions and 2 internationals which would make more people become fans... Not because pros like t3xture and beyn are funny and likeable people... It must be because koreaboos!
JP and KR have soft power but you can count the number of DFM and ZETA fans on one hand here on vlr, so your theory doesn't even hold up at all. I like DFM because they have some of my favorite aimers in meiy and akame, not because japan cool. Before GENG were good they also had basically zero fans. The fact is that being good at the game gives you way more popularity that just being korean.
Also the facts of the situation just don't favor frost because it is just a "he said so" situation and frost is the only one saying this stuff and with no evidence. But maybe termi is a bitch and I am wrong. Either way nothing points to that being the case. Fr0st being overly sensitive is something I can believe though because that is his documented personality.
NebularCarina [#61]
- Frost and Termi’s beef wasn’t about scrim sharing, just between them.
- Frost and Termi met for the first time at the coaching table content piece in the first year.
- He went to say “Hello” to Termi and stuck his hand out. Frost thought Termi didn’t see him the first time.
- He met Termi again at the content piece again and said “Bye” to Termi sarcastically. Termi just walks away.
- Frost thought the first time could have been a mistake but when it happened twice, he knew that it wasn’t an accident and thinks that Termi doesn’t like him.
- Frost has already not fistbumped last year and Termi was talking in an interview about how unsportsmanlike, disrespectful Frost was, how their abyss was trash, and etc.
- Babybay clarified if that was the interview that was mistranslated and it wasn’t.
- Frost said that the one mistranslated was that “about his mom”. The correct translation was that “he had bad manners.” A random person posted on social media with English subtitles. > - Frost wasn’t the one that noticed it but a talon person showed it to him. Frost didn’t even talk about it either on any platform.
- After a year of insults and jabs around him, The walkout was starting. Frost looked across and for 30 seconds, Termi didn’t look at him once. This was 3 months ago in Split 1 where did they not fistbump. Frost said “Lets not even fucking pretend bro and mofo lets play the game” in the stage to Termi.
- He said to DRX players when they were in stage “Goodluck, this is between me and Termi.”
- In his scrum interview, it was between him and Termi. He also gave flowers to Mako, and etc.
- Frost didn't expect that people would seem so aghast(shocked) at the fistbump situation when it happened before.
- Frost was confused that if the fistbump was so disrespectful, Why was Termi taking shots about him in interviews.
- If they were going to fistbump or get dapped up, Frost thinks there should be mutual respect.
- Termi insinuated that he wanted to fight Frost in the scrum interview 3 months ago and had an inflammatory interview and Frost said if he said that, what would the discourse be?
- In 25 min of the video, he thinks there is a lot of double standard between him and Termi. Frost said “Are we even talking about the same person, the one with moral ground, calculated, and etc?” If you look at the behavior from both sides, He doesn’t know if those words apply to Termi.
- If Frost had said about the go back to your country stuff, the defenders would have not defended him.
funny how y'all talk abt stating the facts on Reddit, while ignoring the facts stated on Reddit.
hypocrites.
bro listed the facts and nothing has been contradicted...
merciless-pity8989-89 [#64]Yes bro, we get the point, Fr0st doesn’t like Termi, and Termi doesn’t like Fr0st. They both threw jabs at each other. Literally not a SINGLE soul disputed that fact. What we are talking about is the reason Termi doesn’t like Fr0st.
All you are doing is proving that guys point, you are so up your own ass that you don’t even know what I was arguing.
y'all said "you need the full story" while only telling part of the story, here's the full story and your response is "we already said that".
lmao, y'all can't be reasoned with.
what I was arguing
I wasn't even speaking to you lol, alt account spotted
NebularCarina [#67]y'all said "you need the full story" while only telling part of the story, here's the full story and your response is "we already said that".
lmao, y'all can't be reasoned with.
what I was arguing
I wasn't even speaking to you lol, alt account spotted
Okay, what part of the story did I miss, bc if you actually scroll up you’ll know i covered mostly everything termi did to Fr0st that led up to Fr0st hating termi. Also, i want you to scroll up and read this specific thread more carefully just so you know how dumb you sound
NebularCarina [#38]brother you're arguing with a guy called "HyunminFanboy", you're not gonna be able to get him off DRX's dicks
Instead of defaulting to insulting and vulgar words why don't you actually engage in the Convo. Am I wrong? Does he or does he not have massive confirmation bias for thinking majority of vlr protects Termi because he saw a few people that is very much part of a silent minority— defend him?
What I said isn't even defending Termi or really about Termi at all. Are you just irrationally mad at the slight hint of someones being on the side of someone you despise?
Mango34 [#36]Lol sea and indian people are some of the biggest Korea glazers too in the internet. Again just my observation but Koreans pros or teams being glazed is what I have noticed for some time now in vlr. For example I have seen people glaze mid players or teams suddenly if they are korean even though they would never have known about those players or teams in past. Nothing wrong with that but people generally do have certain biasness towards Korean and Japanese pros and teams in vlr. Just what I have noticed.
I mean it's natural for a sport/esports team to be glazed when they're doing well no? Is Korea not one of the best country in this game or not? If that still doesnt explain your perception of Koreans being glazed, I would love to hear some examples where you think someone or a team is getting glazed just because they are Korean because that might help me understand your perspective more.
HyunminFanboy [#34]You have a severe confirmation bias if you think people in vlr protects Termi of all people. And even if they did it sure as hell wouldn't be "because he's Korean". Sea people and Indians on the internet hates Korea and 99% of the Asians on this site are non east Asians.
Now we are stating false info there are quite a lot of people who love K-pop here in India so I don’t where the hate is coming from I know at the same time there are shitheads who dislike K-pop as well in here
merciless-pity8989-89 [#15]Is this fistbump really that important to yall?
If I am not wrong wasn’t people arguing that it’s just fist bump and be sportmanship when it came to frost head so why is termi not doing it lol that to it is not even frost atp
SleepingSnorlax [#73]If I am not wrong wasn’t people arguing that it’s just fist bump and be sportmanship when it came to frost head so why is termi not doing it lol that to it is not even frost atp
fr0st rent free in t0rmi head
coach enemies to lovers yaoi
SleepingSnorlax [#72]Now we are stating false info there are quite a lot of people who love K-pop here in India so I don’t where the hate is coming from I know at the same time there are shitheads who dislike K-pop as well in here
K-pop is not Korea. More often than not, the people who're into k-pop/ K-drama are the same ones who dehumanizes Korea because they assume that because they consume Korean content all they long that have the right to and that they are knowledgeable enough to make problematic generalized statements about Korea and it's people without batting an eye. Twitter is the biggest example of this but YouTube comment section is just as bad. Not all of them—they're probably not even the majority but just a VERY loud minority but it's nevertheless because of them that hate towards Korea is way more rampant on the internet than any other countries except India and israel
serot [#65]I think you just have a narrative built up already about Korean team fans and JP team fans... that they are only fans because of KPOP and anime and nothing else. Definitely not because Korean teams just won 2 ascensions and 2 internationals which would make more people become fans... Not because pros like t3xture and beyn are funny and likeable people... It must be because koreaboos!
JP and KR have soft power but you can count the number of DFM and ZETA fans on one hand here on vlr, so your theory doesn't even hold up at all. I like DFM because they have some of my favorite aimers in meiy and akame, not because japan cool. Before GENG were good they also had basically zero fans. The fact is that being good at the game gives you way more popularity that just being korean.
Also the facts of the situation just don't favor frost because it is just a "he said so" situation and frost is the only one saying this stuff and with no evidence. But maybe termi is a bitch and I am wrong. Either way nothing points to that being the case. Fr0st being overly sensitive is something I can believe though because that is his documented personality.
Again it's what I have observed. Also never said they have fans only cause they are Koreans but people do tend to be more biased towards any team or pro if they are Koreans or japanese. For example I noticed this with players like tenten or governor or meiy or teams like Ninetails even before they showed some great performance. Noticed this with them. Even actual Korean fans know many vlr users are generally biased towards anything Korea in here lol. tbh you are Chinese so you probably don't know what softpower is. No worries. China's softpower is growing too. Will probably overtake Korea and even Japan in future.
HyunminFanboy [#75]K-pop is not Korea. More often than not, the people who're into k-pop/ K-drama are the same ones who dehumanizes Korea because they assume that because they consume Korean content all they long that have the right to and that they are knowledgeable enough to make problematic generalized statements about Korea and it's people without batting an eye. Twitter is the biggest example of this but YouTube comment section is just as bad. Not all of them—they're probably not even the majority but just a VERY loud minority but it's nevertheless because of them that hate towards Korea is way more rampant on the internet than any other countries except India and israel
I agree twitter is shit for this one increase the hate 10x for any particular community
HyunminFanboy [#75]K-pop is not Korea. More often than not, the people who're into k-pop/ K-drama are the same ones who dehumanizes Korea because they assume that because they consume Korean content all they long that have the right to and that they are knowledgeable enough to make problematic generalized statements about Korea and it's people without batting an eye. Twitter is the biggest example of this but YouTube comment section is just as bad. Not all of them—they're probably not even the majority but just a VERY loud minority but it's nevertheless because of them that hate towards Korea is way more rampant on the internet than any other countries except India and israel
No way you actually said that hate against Korea is more rampant than any other country except for Israel and India lol. You must be living in some other planet. Korea is the 2nd most glazed country in internet after Japan. Bro forgot about china, USA, Russia, north Korea, Pakistan and even UK lol. I think you meant north Korea hate is rampant and not south Korea. Either you are just dumb and trolling or you just surf some obscure part of internet where some people hate on sk.
SleepingSnorlax [#77]I agree twitter is shit for this one increase the hate 10x for any particular community
No way you actually agree with his statement that the hate against south Korea is more rampant than any other country except for India and Israel right ?Bro really said Asia's 2nd most glazed country is one of the most hated country in internet lol.
Ryandr [#79]No way you actually agree with his statement that the hate against south Korea is more rampant than any other country except for India and Israel right ?Bro really said Asia's 2nd most glazed country is one of the most hated country in internet lol.
I mean for any community not agreeing to his words lol
Mango34 [#76]Again it's what I have observed. Also never said they have fans only cause they are Koreans but people do tend to be more biased towards any team or pro if they are Koreans or japanese. For example I noticed this with players like tenten or governor or meiy or teams like Ninetails even before they showed some great performance. Noticed this with them. Even actual Korean fans know many vlr users are generally biased towards anything Korea in here lol. tbh you are Chinese so you probably don't know what softpower is. No worries. China's softpower is growing too. Will probably overtake Korea and even Japan in future.
Governor is one of the most clowned on players of all time atm. What bias… I have never in my life seen tenten being glazed because he honestly was pretty mid after his first couple of games. And meiy is literally one of the best duelists in apac, ofc people are gonna like him.
Also wtf do you mean by biased… people are allowed to like Korean and Japanese players without them being victims of soft power. It’s called being a fan. Can you give any single concrete example of the bias in question? All you are doing is saying random bullshit and giving zero evidence. “Korean fans would agree with me” name one Korean vlr user that agrees with you.
Also yes I know what soft power is, you sound hella racist by saying I don’t know what soft power is because I’m Chinese. Literally what does that have to do with anything. I literally described soft power examples in my comment.
Ur hiding behind a North Korean flag like you are 12 years old. I know you are fucking insecure about your country with the way you talk. The only biased one here is you.
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