JonahP is an extremely experienced support player, his fragging power isnt really high but the support and experience he brings is phenomenal , he is a great flex player that allows G2 to play a ton of different comps like he can play sentinels like vyse and sage, he can also play initiators like breach, skye , fade and he can also play controller like viper, this potentially allowing G2 next year to play double senti, double controller viper, double controller viper+ senti, double initiator , whatever way the meta leans into , G2 is just one step away from winning a trophy and that step is to put leaf onto the second duelist and play double duelist stuff cause thats the only thing they arent running and double duelist is very favored to be meta next year as well and when u look at it the other way, the way u go about replacing someone like jonahp isnt to bring another support player but potentially a way better firepower upgrade cause clearly there isnt a similar flex player to replace him, and there arent many players available that can flex around that much and provide that much of a firepower upgrade, and when u just solely focus on a firepower upgrade and forget abt flex your comps get kinda one sided next year
Why G2 shouldnt replace jonahP
not reading allat seven clears, our flex player needs to be able to play duelist
"Your Text is Human written" is impressive. Did you come up with allat on your own or just bypassed detection?
KimAltAccount [#4]Cool story
G2 yay is the truth
yay? bro no never nope, pls dont, downgrade of the century since not much firepower upgrade and not much flex
StalwartTiger_35 [#6]i mean they gotta change something
the thing they gotta change is putting leaf's ass on that secodn duelist
grisx23 [#5]"Your Text is Human written" is impressive. Did you come up with allat on your own or just bypassed detection?
some vlr users out here think , i came up with this on my own , it doesnt take much at all to think
PrincePuma01 [#11]TL JonahP or G2 JonahP what would you rather KClaw?
G2 JonahP? cause tl isnt likely win anything this year with or without jonahp, while g2 with jonahp can definitely win
sh1lll [#12]i get it but hes literally holding them back dude hes their weakest link
asuna is you guys weakest link i dont see 100t dumping him, every team will have objectively have a weakest link cause thats common sense someone is ought to be better and someone is ought to be good but not as good as the others
Maybe just maybe part of the reason the rest of JonahP's team looks so good and coordinated is because he understands how support better than 99% of players. He has flexibility in controller, initiator, and sentinel roles and firepower/form is relatively easier to train than player instincts and macro-strategy. I could see an argument for the first part of the season benching him on maps where you want a contact Sentinel and double duelist, adding a 6th man like Seven, Demon1, or another Duelist/contact senti player. Dropping him would be idiotic and give me serious doubts in the leadership of this team.
lol mf said ethan cant call for shidd. how about you call some teams and ask em to let you play
KClaw [#14]asuna is you guys weakest link i dont see 100t dumping him, every team will have objectively have a weakest link cause thats common sense someone is ought to be better and someone is ought to be good but not as good as the others
fair point but we're talking hypotheticals, in a perfect world we dont have asuna and have ab etter flex and same goes for u guys
daboi [#17]lol mf said ethan cant call for shidd. how about you call some teams and ask em to let you play
who said that and when, i never mentioned ethan here
KClaw [#19]who said that and when, i never mentioned ethan here
lol jonahP was the one who said it
daboi [#20]lol jonahP was the one who said it
oh okay, well i think it could be true in that timeframe when he said ( idk when he said it), but ethan truly learned to call when bonkar taught him properly for stage 2 before that he was actually clueless
KClaw [#21]oh okay, well i think it could be true in that timeframe when he said ( idk when he said it), but ethan truly learned to call when bonkar taught him properly for stage 2 before that he was actually clueless
tbf yeah and if EDG closed out that abyss in champs, the narrative woulda stayed the same 😭
daboi [#22]tbf yeah and if EDG closed out that abyss in champs, the narrative woulda stayed the same 😭
bro if edg closed that out i feel like nrg would have never literally won champs
KClaw [#7]yay? bro no never nope, pls dont, downgrade of the century since not much firepower upgrade and not much flex
How is yay a downgrade LOL lets see if jonahP plays in any other team and does better than yay did on EG LOL
KClaw [#8]the thing they gotta change is putting leaf's ass on that secodn duelist
i agree
daboi [#20]lol jonahP was the one who said it
ethan couldn’t call for shit on attack at the time so he was partially right but it is indeed funny to look back at it now
KClaw [#7]yay? bro no never nope, pls dont, downgrade of the century since not much firepower upgrade and not much flex
downvoted for the truth, they don’t even play the same role lol
KiraVal [#24]How is yay a downgrade LOL lets see if jonahP plays in any other team and does better than yay did on EG LOL
baby's first valo season
KClaw [#9]some vlr users out here think , i came up with this on my own , it doesnt take much at all to think
let's not give ourselves too much credit
He's essentially Chronicle minus the trophies and shooting. Still valuable.
Mqrio [#29]baby's first valo season
ooh baby furia fan talking about first season LOL probably havent even watched vct since dawn of time
i watched VCT since 2021 LOL can you use your fking brain. its not about the players being washed they haven't fit into the perfect system. G2 has the system yay can thrive in as both jonahP and yay have the personality of a dog.
its also why yay had improved playing in bleed to now playing in Eg this year genius.....
g2 have jawgemo as entry but who is the second duelist if they wanna play 2nd duelist ? leaf can do it but he is very good on viper and senti roles
jonah not so much flexible than yay he literally played clove jett chamber cypher kj last year. including astra brim
talk about flexible
SudokuDude [#32]He's essentially Chronicle minus the trophies and shooting. Still valuable.
Wdym without the trophies and shooting isn't that like most of what defines a player.
KiraVal [#33]ooh baby furia fan talking about first season LOL probably havent even watched vct since dawn of time
i watched VCT since 2021 LOL can you use your fking brain. its not about the players being washed they haven't fit into the perfect system. G2 has the system yay can thrive in as both jonahP and yay have the personality of a dog.
its also why yay had improved playing in bleed to now playing in Eg this year genius.....g2 have jawgemo as entry but who is the second duelist if they wanna play 2nd duelist ? leaf can do it but he is very good on viper and senti roles
jonah not so much flexible than yay he literally played clove jett chamber cypher kj last year. including astra brim
talk about flexible
you want to replace the best assist role player in vct with... a raw aimer.
Yeah i need to use my brain, right
KiraVal [#33]ooh baby furia fan talking about first season LOL probably havent even watched vct since dawn of time
i watched VCT since 2021 LOL can you use your fking brain. its not about the players being washed they haven't fit into the perfect system. G2 has the system yay can thrive in as both jonahP and yay have the personality of a dog.
its also why yay had improved playing in bleed to now playing in Eg this year genius.....g2 have jawgemo as entry but who is the second duelist if they wanna play 2nd duelist ? leaf can do it but he is very good on viper and senti roles
jonah not so much flexible than yay he literally played clove jett chamber cypher kj last year. including astra brim
talk about flexible
he’s only good on two of the agents you mentioned maybe three
jonah is good on the viper, flash initiator, second sentinel which is his best fragging role and has the highest amount of assists across vct americas. he’s so much more valuable to a team like G2 than yay will be
catNmouse [#36]he’s only good on two of the agents you mentioned maybe three
jonah is good on the viper, flash initiator, second sentinel which is his best fragging role and has the highest amount of assists across vct americas. he’s so much more valuable to a team like G2 than yay will be
like a jett and clove player is going to replace a true flex I'm crying over here
SudokuDude [#32]He's essentially Chronicle minus the trophies and shooting. Still valuable.
He's chronicle minus chronicle*
Mqrio [#37]like a jett and clove player is going to replace a true flex I'm crying over here
like if youre going to replace him then at least look at an actual flex player 😭 idk how he has 4 upvotes
Mqrio [#37]like a jett and clove player is going to replace a true flex I'm crying over here
As I said g2 doesn't need assits they need a player who can kill
Jaw plays most entry duelist while yay plays remaining entry duelist like victor was neon and yay was jett
ik yay cannot play raze as good as any other duelist but jawgemo can flex any duelist
yay did play neon and yoru but didnt win on bleed but his individual performance was good on those agents just his team threw so many rounds
Like amount of assits doesnt mean your team is the goated team
EG literally left yay to solo lurk on clove and chamber without any support and he played well doesnt mean he is bad just no support if he has a team like g2 he would be another leaf level player
Shadow_Monarch [#40]G2 Demon1. Put Leaf on initiator.
Why do i feel like this is actually going to happen
KiraVal [#41]As I said g2 doesn't need assits they need a player who can kill
Jaw plays most entry duelist while yay plays remaining entry duelist like victor was neon and yay was jett
ik yay cannot play raze as good as any other duelist but jawgemo can flex any duelist
yay did play neon and yoru but didnt win on bleed but his individual performance was good on those agents just his team threw so many roundsLike amount of assits doesnt mean your team is the goated team
EG literally left yay to solo lurk on clove and chamber without any support and he played well doesnt mean he is bad just no support if he has a team like g2 he would be another leaf level player
jonahP being a supportive player is what made G2 as good as they are in the first place, they thrived in the tejo meta became of his support util etc etc
if you’re going to suggest a replacement at least consider seven instead of yay
catNmouse [#39]like if youre going to replace him then at least look at an actual flex player 😭 idk how he has 4 upvotes
buddy they dont need a flex player g2 is a team where almost leaf jaw can play any role
trent scan
vayln smokes
yay can fill in second duelist on sentinel when leaf plays second duelist
like idk how you people are so brain dead yay literally was not entry duelist on optic too they just had fking crazy IGL like FNS who knows ball and how to run comps
victor is same player as jawgemo who can run in and kill with any agent
catNmouse [#43]jonahP being a supportive player is what made G2 as good as they are in the first place, they thrived in the tejo meta became of his support util etc etc
if you’re going to suggest a replacement at least consider seven instead of yay
He probably had more assits cause he was not able to kill people and did damage
stage 1 his K.D.A (359/440/345)
stage 2 his K.D.A (333 /278/150)
literally you can see his had to play all the decent to good teams in stage 1
stage 2 he has to play 2g furia EG not even trying win and see why they won easily going through upper cause they need a fragger not a support agent LOL stage 1 they struggled so hard to make it lan
LOL know your game buddy not everything is about raw stats you know when and what the team needs to thrive
KiraVal [#45]He probably had more assits cause he was not able to kill people and did damage
stage 1 his K.D.A (359/440/345)
stage 2 his K.D.A (333 /278/150)
literally you can see his had to play all the decent to good teams in stage 1
stage 2 he has to play 2g furia EG not even trying win and see why they won easily going through upper cause they need a fragger not a support agent LOL stage 1 they struggled so hard to make it lan
LOL know your game buddy not everything is about raw stats you know when and what the team needs to thrive
g2 already has 4 capable players of fragging which is more than enough as long as you have a good supportive player which is what jonahp provides, mind you he was even their best player at times especially in 2024
KClaw [#21]oh okay, well i think it could be true in that timeframe when he said ( idk when he said it), but ethan truly learned to call when bonkar taught him properly for stage 2 before that he was actually clueless
he said it at stage 2 grand finals
catNmouse [#46]g2 already has 4 capable players of fragging which is more than enough as long as you have a good supportive player which is what jonahp provides, mind you he was even their best player at times especially in 2024
I'm not denying jonahP is best support but apr doesnt mean shit
suppose JonahP has APR on fade his most played agent in past 60 days its 0.39 and narrate same agent he played the most has 0.52
yay played breach and sova too like for 10-15 maps in previous years and had apr of 0.45 and 0.3 like so you are saying APR is everything and jonahP is the god of assits cause his numbers say so?? he just couldnt finish the enemy off so many times that APR got boosted
trent and vayln are good enough support G2 all players support each other I dont think all 4 players are fraggers in the same time but all can frag
but Jonah has Kmax of 19! in this best stage LOL cant say much he could never pop off thats his problem
KiraVal [#49]I'm not denying jonahP is best support but apr doesnt mean shit
suppose JonahP has APR on fade his most played agent in past 60 days its 0.39 and narrate same agent he played the most has 0.52
yay played breach and sova too like for 10-15 maps in previous years and had apr of 0.45 and 0.3 like so you are saying APR is everything and jonahP is the god of assits cause his numbers say so?? he just couldnt finish the enemy off so many times that APR got boosted
trent and vayln are good enough support G2 all players support each other I dont think all 4 players are fraggers in the same time but all can frag
but Jonah has Kmax of 19! in this best stage LOL cant say much he could never pop off thats his problem
are the yay breach and sova games in the room with us ?
Mqrio [#51]are the yay breach and sova games in the room with us ?
Thats the point APR doesnt mean shit if the context is not matching LOL
wamaaan [#34]Wdym without the trophies and shooting isn't that like most of what defines a player.
Agent repertoire.
Discord