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Stop recycling players

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#1
themaniel

How is saadhak getting onto a team in 2025

Please nobody pick up lemon1 next season

New players are exciting

#2
KClaw
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Only if the company or place where ur parents worked at would have said this to them and let them go, then they would never have had enough finances to have a child like you

#4
themaniel
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what

#7
Tempest24
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what

#9
Neonfreak
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what

#12
JackZIn99
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what

#21
m0rtem
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VAS?????

#24
Good_ping_Bad_aim
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what

#27
diffed
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what

#32
CaxTonYT
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W

#40
m4
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🎩

#3
THE_HAHA_GUY
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And is the new t2 talent full roster rebuild really gonna work. Only furia and 100T will be able prove that this works.

#5
themaniel
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Furia rebound would go crazy 🥹

#6
MrHyphon
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Lev

#8
midzera
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Americas have been pretty much hindered by a lack of quality IGLs. Players like Saadhak are seasoned callers. Having non-IGL players transition into IGL can be very risky and time-consuming in an esport where there aren't many opportunities to test your skills. The worse teams play 12 matches in a whole year so results need to be provided quickly. I definitely want some new players in lieu of some of the deadwood. Tier 2 stars like Alym definitely deserve a shot.

Another major limitation is the import rule. Admittedly, VISAs in of themselves are an issue for many foreign players trying to play in EMEA or Americas. However, the import rules definitely hinder Tier 2 talent from abroad from being scouted.

#18
MrBlooBloom
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there are 5 good/insane level igl prospects in americas, if anything it is the region with the least IGLs problems of them all. I'd much rather get any of them than saadhak, I don't see why you'd be ready to bet on anything but igls. In fact getting fresh blood in the igling department would be great in that it would renew the currently washed understanding of the game that a lot of teams have

#22
midzera
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EMEA definitely is in the toughest spot looking for IGLs. There are probably some alright tier 2 ones, but IGLs in general feel far and few to come by if you want one that is self-sufficient in fragging. Being a smart caller isn't enough in today's pro scene. Players like Valyn, F0rsaken and Nats are fairly rare because they got amazing fragging power from the get-go, but the brain to call a play that isn't overly-basic. Saadhak does have some fragging power and crazy ideas. I think that he is an IGL that I don't mind seeing again because eventually someone will be able to work with his ideas. He's lowkey the Argentinian Ange1 in this respect and Ange1 is now moving on to coaching. Ange1 was also quite crazy on the ideas and could frag, but not consistently.

#23
MrBlooBloom
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and in the end Ange1 didn't achieve anything in his last 2 years despite having everything and everyone he wanted. you probably picked the worst exemple to serve your point; a washed igl with decent calling and system building, who wasted most of his team's year and wasn't able to create anything good enough to reach internationals again, bc everyone simply caught up to his level and eventually overtook him. Literally the same as Saadhak; having all he pieces one could dream of to have a great team and being literally unable to make those pieces work together. I don't see why I'd give him another opportunity to fuck up when I can just get an insane prospect who will be way easier to work with and who I know has good reads on the meta and has wayyyy more room to grow than any other 55 yo veteran igl

#10
SudokuDude
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we pick up 1 lemon a day

#11
serot
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Uncommon themaniel L

#13
themaniel
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I’m happy you said uncommon tbh

#14
Luceus
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common themaniel L there fixed it for you

#15
andrzx
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ppl won’t get it at all when Furia wins everything next year with a roster fully made up of NA tier 2 players

#16
Effluxi
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IGLs I get cuz igl talent is thin

some others are inexcusable, avova 2025 was wild

#17
dimmed
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Breaks my heart when people are mean to themaniel 💔

#19
themaniel
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it’s okay d-dimmed.

I-I’m used to it 🥺😔

#20
m4
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This was my argument since the application. This was my argument in my reaction to 100 Thieves.

System is broken.

#25
Yamaljr
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NA can’t produce any real talent in tier 2, so they keep recycling washed-up players like Saadhak, Yay, Demon1, Victor, Icy, and fns

#28
MrBlooBloom
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no it's just the bums org having terrible managers, nothing wrong with talent in T2

#26
Galactc
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Maybe there's just a lot of players who are more than good enough for tier 1 and not enough teams to house them all

#29
MrBlooBloom
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KRU chose to get Saadhak when they had the opportunity to get someone else. Amount of spots in the league isn't the problem here, it's purely an org decision

#30
Galactc
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Did they really though there isn't many other people to get and there's a reasonable chance that they simply don't leave their teams if they are that good as much as I think org management on most teams are bums i feel like u just don't like saadhack

#31
MrBlooBloom
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mited was right there. Kru already wanted saadhak last year, couldn't get him, saw his year on KC and were liike "yeah let's get his washed ass instead of the best igl all of SA T2". And in theory I have nothing against saadhak he just hasn't given any good reason in the past 2 years to get him over the insane players there are inT2 and it pisses me off that teams keep recycling old players

#33
Galactc
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Is mited even that good if he was exl would at least make ascension

#34
MrBlooBloom
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"is mited that good if he was exl would at least make ascension"
https://www.vlr.gg/player/8056/mited/?timespan=90d

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2603/challengers-2025-latin-america-finals

by that logic Verno or skuba aren't that good cuz they didn't make Ascnesion in 2024???? wtf is this argument lol

#35
Galactc
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It's more important for an igl than an individual player also t2 stats are worthless to me

#37
MrBlooBloom
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ok so you never watched an exl game and you're out here making critics out of your ass + you have no idea how scouting works irl

#36
Z0vereign
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i find it crazy how people try to argue hes bad after he didnt make ascension even though he was also still playing insane and igling at the same time

#38
Galactc
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I never said he was bad though I just don't think he's clearly the best option that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a chance in tier 1 but krü aren't massively fumbling by not getting him

#39
Z0vereign
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who would be better then as a fragging igl

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