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CN 4 seeds?

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#1
king_bob

3/4 grouped with 0 wins, only one left is XLG beating the worst team of the tourney. Isn’t it time for Riot to just make it 3 seeds at this point for CN? Haven’t these guys been absolute wasted slots since they joined franchising? It’s at this point damaging the integrity of the competition when 4 (not including SEN) out of the just 16 teams in an international are complete fodder.

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Obsidian_Echo_Alt
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they joined franchise last year and won champs ; top3 finish every event after that ;

#3
king_bob
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lol

#12
Finland
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any arguments boys? anything?

#28
king_bob
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lol

#8
yehfela
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Lmao

#26
MichaelMouse
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Crazy tricks

#4
Realfacts
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They need these slots to get the experience. Otherwise that region is never reducing the gap caused due to the lack of experience. Also they need a structure change as well tbh. Try something new like import foreign coaches or get some new talents.

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Obsidian_Echo_Alt
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tier 2 is shite over there as well

#19
simbhdri
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we dont talk abt CN tier 2 ngl

#20
Obsidian_Echo_Alt
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yeah they just magically qualify for ascension ; maybe there are some underground streams

#21
simbhdri
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there are, iinw u can find them on liquipedia cuz vlr doesnt care

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Anguibok
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I will copy past the exact same I say for AMER
[There](https://www.vlr.gg/post/5475278/americas-dont-deserve-4-spots-at-champa) :

"It's not a question of deserving, it's a question of balance, if a region have more slot they will snowball making the international event boring (like in LoL), if your region is the best, then you dont need more slot to win the event. Giving less spoit to Amer will not make them play better"

Same for China, 1 region equal number of slot for other region

The best we can do is just expanding the region to include smaller T2 underrepresented region to make China a little bit better, and reduce the number of T1 CN team to reduce the talent dilution (Oceania ? Japan ? Vietnam ? India ?), but I don't really think people would like this solution a "China-Indian" league would be weird.
Other solution could be to punish Russia by splitting Russian player into different region, you put a server in Ulaanbaatar, give China residency to Mongolz and Siberian Russian, give 1 spot to Siberian and 1 spot to Mongolz with 6 CN partner (4 remainig in ascention spot), and so the level is a little bit higher, but i'm not that sure people are ready to split Russia into different region, and especially not ready for Russia dominating a "Chinese region"
Another solution could be to have more region in the world and reduce the number of team per region and go in 8 team per region region (Like CIS, EMEA, NA, SA, KR-JP-OCE, SEA-SA, CN), but going to 16 team for Amercas isnt viable to me, so maybe region of 6 ? But NGL region of 6 does sounds depressing.

What is depressing is that in 20 year, having an "Eastern Asian league" will be perfect since they will have their population decrease really fast, and we could go 3KR, 3CN, 2JP, 4 asc repartition that would be perfect

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The problem is china is too narrow a region. They should include more from western asia/northern asia, cuz a lot of them have to play in pacific because of import rules for china.
americas is doing fine this event (ik it's a one team region for most of the year but maybe not now)

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Anguibok
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Northern Asia is Mongolia and Siberia, Mongolia is a little bit small, but I still do want Mongolz to have a T1 team, and it's hard to put Suberia in China (even tho it could be a solution) About Western Asia, giving MENA to Asia would be weird, hard to know also about "Central CIS". How would you redraw Val boundaries ?

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koreanfriedchicken
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SAME AS LEAGUE, THEY SHOULD REMOVE ALL WESTERN TEAMS SINCE THEY ALL DOGSHIT COMPARE TO KOREA

#7
Anguibok
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Bro, your country will disappear in 20 years

#11
Jayde
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So this is one of the crazy t1 league fans everyone always talks about

#10
Luceus
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Y'all just doubting XLG

#13
hoboclap
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You can say the exact same shit for americas. Just give 1 or 2 spots to both china and americas, and the rest to pacific. That would make internationals more competitive.

#18
ImTheKing
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To Pacific? are you high?

#22
hoboclap
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best region by far right now lol. EMEA is catching up slowly, but still behind overall

#23
Sharo
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0/8

#30
hoboclap
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APAC 4th seed completely shafted ur team twice btw (EMEA 1st seed)

#14
EMEAstan
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In a couple years when Americas is a Tier 3 region you better be thankful that riot believes in equality

#24
ClownOrgsofIndia
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Riot is chinese company, sums it all.

#25
soonwookong
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a fun thing they might be able to do is follow cs where they keep 8 spots default with 2 for each region and the other 8 follows the distribution from the last champs

#27
Lyze
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Time to move Cn, Kr, and Jp together

#29
chasethefuture
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so what happens to asia- pacific teams

#31
Lyze
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Add OCE and VIET i guess

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