Stop the GOAT debate

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Pacific fans saying Forsaken is the goat where else EU fans saying Chronicle is the goat, like there's 0 point in making these debates.

Reason being :

  • Valorant is a much more volatile esports, it's hard to stay at the top like LoL where Faker can dominate for 10+ years.
  • Consistency. People will have good days and bad days. A player's peak does not define their actual form same as some of their bad plays.
  • Game is too young to produce any generational talent like Donk.

However, I will lean to the narratives that Forsaken > Chronicle if PRX wins this champ, but still not the GOAT.

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There is no Forsaken in goat debate, pacific fans need to chill. He is not even top 5 as of now 😂😂

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BIGDADDYVLR [#2]

There is no Forsaken in goat debate, pacific fans need to chill. He is not even top 5 as of now 😂😂

bro said not even top 5 are u mad

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RzqoFoxie
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No way anyone ever said that forsaken is the goat... That's just grasping at straws

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NewEraZ2
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I don't think any non prx pacific fan would put Forsaken #1 lmao

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BIGDADDYVLR [#2]

There is no Forsaken in goat debate, pacific fans need to chill. He is not even top 5 as of now 😂😂

he's top 5 in this tournament at least

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NewEraZ2 [#5]

I don't think any non prx pacific fan would put Forsaken #1 lmao

even top 3 for that matter maybe 5 but i put him top 10

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Forsaken is not even top 10 lmao. 2 good internationals in his whole career.

At least Aspas xou can discuss.

Chronicle is undeniable however

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RzqoFoxie [#4]

No way anyone ever said that forsaken is the goat... That's just grasping at straws

SEA fans claiming him as their GOAT all the time tho (mostly indonesian fans)

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SleepingSnorlax
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Donk is generational we are not even close

#11
KogMaw
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Congo1 [#8]

Forsaken is not even top 10 lmao. 2 good internationals in his whole career.

At least Aspas xou can discuss.

Chronicle is undeniable however

not even top 10 is a stretch lol he's definitely good, where would you rank him ideally then?

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irondemon
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primmie clears everyone bro, never seen player much more mechanically gifted than him. Give talon 3 more years and he will conquer all trophies.

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Why is Forsaken even in the Goat conversation? Chronicle, Aspas, Derke, Tenz, Alfa occupy the top 5.

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Shadrach
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Y0y

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BIGDADDYVLR [#2]

There is no Forsaken in goat debate, pacific fans need to chill. He is not even top 5 as of now 😂😂

he is top 10

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l0cus [#3]

bro said not even top 5 are u mad

I think ur delulu if u think he is top 5 oat

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reaper_rega08 [#13]

Why is Forsaken even in the Goat conversation? Chronicle, Aspas, Derke, Tenz, Alfa occupy the top 5.

I don’t understand, people suddenly started claiming he’s the GOAT, it’s some kind of propaganda. Alfajer > 2x forsaken at least

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Tempest24
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I mean we all know that fpx autumn is the goat

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KogMaw [#11]

not even top 10 is a stretch lol he's definitely good, where would you rank him ideally then?

  1. Chronicle
  2. Derke
  3. Alfajer
  4. Aspas
  5. Leo
  6. Yay
  7. TenZ
  8. Nats
  9. Meteor
  10. Sacy
  11. Forsaken

10th is the best i can do for him. There are other names like Less and Texture who are prime candidates that i left out for him.

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reaper_rega08 [#13]

Why is Forsaken even in the Goat conversation? Chronicle, Aspas, Derke, Tenz, Alfa occupy the top 5.

He is one of the most popular players in the game right now. Thats all

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for me its just fun to think who is the best player oat(even if valorant its 5 years old), and i I don't take it seriously like goat debate in cs, because game is too young to say smth

#22
_AshBorne_
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Whyis derke there zero impact since 24

#23
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the only real "goat" contenders are:

people who've been great through multiple, different metas
arent one trick jett or chamber players
was, at some point at least, one of, if not, the best player on the team they won on

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sw4gman [#23]

the only real "goat" contenders are:

people who've been great through multiple, different metas
arent one trick jett or chamber players
was, at some point at least, one of, if not, the best player on the team they won on

nAts fits that description

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DAIH
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sw4gman [#23]

the only real "goat" contenders are:

people who've been great through multiple, different metas
arent one trick jett or chamber players
was, at some point at least, one of, if not, the best player on the team they won on

So aspas isn't in your goat conversation?

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DAIH [#25]

So aspas isn't in your goat conversation?

he is though, he wasnt being called a one trick jett prior to this season , and i dont actually think he's a one trick jett

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z4kr9 [#16]

I think ur delulu if u think he is top 5 oat

indians... GE.... kekw L

#28
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meteor is closer to apac goat than forsaken

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macncheese [#28]

meteor is closer to apac goat than forsaken

don't be delusional, meteor is not seeing playoffs

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KogMaw [#29]

don't be delusional, meteor is not seeing playoffs

what are you talking about? hes won two international trophies with 2 different teams being the hard carry on both. it doesnt matter if he doesnt make playoffs with st0x and b0zz

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Aspas is the goat

#32
Bobby558
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there is no goat, hasn't been one transcendent player in the history of the game, the closest we got was yay and the fall off killed it

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KogMaw
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1nshh [#31]

Aspas is the goat

Not even hot take straight wrong

#34
CatEffect2
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Saying "Goat" is more of a compliment. If we're seriously discussing who's the greatest of all time, then no one in this game deserves that title yet.

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