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vLadan289
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I'm new to this game, started playing not that long ago, and was wondering couple of things:

  1. Which teams are considered underdogs that can upset some top tier 1 teams?
  2. How many big tournaments are played during the year?
  3. How many tournaments like this (that you can play Pick Ems) we have in one year?

Hope you're all having a great day and I'm looking forward to your answers!

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SENfns
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3 big tournaments - masters 1 (tends to be flukey), masters 2, champs
underdogs are: GX NRG MIBR DRX and all chinese teams

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GroKayou
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You can do your pickems with a lot of other tournaments like EWC or Ascension I think, and with all the VCT leagues (and of course masters and champs)

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-Artorias
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also heretics is worst team in champs right now. alotof people makes heretics propaganda here be caruful

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SENfns
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talking about propaganda don't believe any nAts is a god or Leo is the goat of valorant propaganda its not true otherwise they'd be winning sometihng right about now

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-Artorias [#4]

also heretics is worst team in champs right now. alotof people makes heretics propaganda here be caruful

i'd argue GX is worse, like, if TH gets yesterdays PRX in a matchup its 26-8 for TH or map 3 is 13-10 for TH

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Ryzmii [#6]

i'd argue GX is worse, like, if TH gets yesterdays PRX in a matchup its 26-8 for TH or map 3 is 13-10 for TH

tf we are not about to slander GX

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SENfns [#2]

3 big tournaments - masters 1 (tends to be flukey), masters 2, champs
underdogs are: GX NRG MIBR DRX and all chinese teams

why are we still pushing this masters 1 is flukey agenda when last year sen ended top 4 at champs and t1 is looking good right now too at the end of the year

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markass_brownee [#7]

tf we are not about to slander GX

ok but heretics is DEFFO not the worst team in champs, like, beating S0N is one thing, 2-0ing G2 is a whole another level

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-Artorias [#4]

also heretics is worst team in champs right now. alotof people makes heretics propaganda here be caruful

this has to be ragebait right???

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Ryzmii [#9]

ok but heretics is DEFFO not the worst team in champs, like, beating S0N is one thing, 2-0ing G2 is a whole another level

dude he's baiting just check username

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macncheese [#8]

why are we still pushing this masters 1 is flukey agenda when last year sen ended top 4 at champs and t1 is looking good right now too at the end of the year

Winners of masters 1 disappear during mid year and try to come back at the last moment?

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macncheese [#8]

why are we still pushing this masters 1 is flukey agenda when last year sen ended top 4 at champs and t1 is looking good right now too at the end of the year

neither team attended masters 2?

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Xool_233 [#12]

Winners of masters 1 disappear during mid year and try to come back at the last moment?

yea but this happens with most teams not just m1 winners, like wolves fell off after toronto. when you make adeep run at a tournament it puts u at a significant disadvantage for the next domestic stage cuz theres so much vods on u and u have little prep and are burnt

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Selfim
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qwessss [#10]

this has to be ragebait right???

He's just built wrong like that

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mulyondoindon
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qwessss [#10]

this has to be ragebait right???

click his username, then analyse. You will get the answer

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vLadan289
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I can see that a Valorant scene is a bit different than CS2 is, my goal is to learn more from all of you guys because it's a big switch to another game after spending more than a decade getting to know counter strike teams.
I'm all about the debate, and would like to see more guys not getting into non useful conversations, we're all here to discuss the game, nothing else :D

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SENfns [#13]

neither team attended masters 2?

but its not cause they are bad, the schedule is jst too tight even g2 struggled in americas

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vLadan289 [#17]

I can see that a Valorant scene is a bit different than CS2 is, my goal is to learn more from all of you guys because it's a big switch to another game after spending more than a decade getting to know counter strike teams.
I'm all about the debate, and would like to see more guys not getting into non useful conversations, we're all here to discuss the game, nothing else :D

be careful of the baiters young padawan

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Xool_233
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Pengu12 [#18]

but its not cause they are bad, the schedule is jst too tight even g2 struggled in americas

(they won)

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Xool_233
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macncheese [#14]

yea but this happens with most teams not just m1 winners, like wolves fell off after toronto. when you make adeep run at a tournament it puts u at a significant disadvantage for the next domestic stage cuz theres so much vods on u and u have little prep and are burnt

There are VODs on you, I agree
But the burnt excuse, again?

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Xool_233 [#20]

(they won)

yeah but like barely they were 2 rounds from not making toronto multiple times

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shzuo
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  1. In champs is GiantX, Xi Lai Gaming, MIBR, DRX, T1
  2. Three internationals that matter: 2 masters and 1 champions
  3. All internationals and all T1 regionals (Americas, EMEA, Pacific, China). Regionals are divided in three (kickoff, 1 stage, 2 stage), so 12 + 3 internationals making it 15 tournaments
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SENfns [#2]

3 big tournaments - masters 1 (tends to be flukey), masters 2, champs
underdogs are: GX NRG MIBR DRX and all chinese teams

the only masters 1 winner to not keep up their form was 2021 SEN btw

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SENfns
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Pengu12 [#18]

but its not cause they are bad, the schedule is jst too tight even g2 struggled in americas

they stretched out the schedule this year thats why champs is now-october instead of august bro i wouldnt say thats the issue

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jawn [#24]

the only masters 1 winner to not keep up their form was 2021 SEN btw

didnt ask prehistoric valorant

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macncheese [#8]

why are we still pushing this masters 1 is flukey agenda when last year sen ended top 4 at champs and t1 is looking good right now too at the end of the year

Brand new meta, new rosters. Teams generally have no clue how to play the game yet

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qwessss [#10]

this has to be ragebait right???

This guy is turkish trembolona. Dont expect sanity

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SENfns [#26]

didnt ask prehistoric valorant

sure, that only helps my argument more

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dimmed
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-Artorias [#4]

also heretics is worst team in champs right now. alotof people makes heretics propaganda here be caruful

idk t1 seem slightly worse tbh

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dimmed
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SENfns [#5]

talking about propaganda don't believe any nAts is a god or Leo is the goat of valorant propaganda its not true otherwise they'd be winning sometihng right about now

how many times do I have to teach you?? Repeat after me:

  • If nAts wins, its because he's the GOAT
  • If nAts loses, its because he's giving other people a chance, truly a humble king
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macncheese [#22]

yeah but like barely they were 2 rounds from not making toronto multiple times

It's funny how they struggled (G2 fans loved Yay in pearl) yet they won the whole thing

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Xool_233 [#21]

There are VODs on you, I agree
But the burnt excuse, again?

Why would that not be a valid excuse?

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SENfns
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dimmed [#31]

how many times do I have to teach you?? Repeat after me:

  • If nAts wins, its because he's the GOAT
  • If nAts loses, its because he's giving other people a chance, truly a humble king

first time i've been taught this but thank you bro

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