Sentinels Issues

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Form and Lack of Creativity

Form - most of the players forms have drastically gone down compared to last year's SEN
'24 Zekken --> '25 Zekken: has had some slumps but he's genuinely topped his Madrid form (slight upgrade)
'24 Sacy --> '25 N4RRATE: lost clutching power and N4RRATE is a bit inconsistent but he's been overall SEN's 1st-2nd best player (slight upgrade)
'24 Zellsis --> '25 Zellsis: if Zellsis is being forced to shoot his gun in big games then you know that you have issues as a team (slight upgrade)
'24 Johnqt --> '25 Johnqt: and now we get to the downgrades, Johnqt used to be good for everything. He could clutch, call and get his two but now he either gets one or none (slight downgrade)
'24 TenZ --> '25 Bang: I love Bang as a player so it hurts my heart to say that he's a major downgrade to TenZ. Worse aim, worse anchoring, less creativity, less aggressiveness, worse util and more (major, major downgrade)

I know these guys said at the beginning of the year that they would change things up but they literally just swapped TenZ and Sacy for N4RRATE and Bang who cannot fill in those shoes. They don't do anything creative but they're still a really good team despite that. If they can push for their own meta and have their own identity then they can win Champions........2026 :D

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tenz is not that much better than bang. tenz is fucking crazy with his aim, but bang is really good with util.

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24 tenz was much better than bang in stats and util and clutch win percentage.

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Dudhi

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bang is not oping for this team like tenz was

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I'm sorry but if we're just comparing TenZ vs Bang paranoias on Omen then it's obvious who's better with util. Bang is also usually a lurker (on non Omen) so he can't set up his team that well whereas TenZ (on non Omen) plays Kay/o and Gekko and he usually helps his team (usually Zekken) to get on aggressive angles really really well. It's an unfair comparison but your argument with "bang is really good with util" is false.

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Tenz on omen was sudo duelist and because he was a duelist player before he know how to set up zekken WAY better than bang also he was oping and zekken was rifle and that helped a little on maps where an op gets value now sen dont have an oper and if zekken ops they lose their best rifle player also his anchoring is on the same level as bang maybe slightly worse and this is mainly because bang usual role is anchor where as tenz was ini/controller

#12

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tenz was actually way too better than bang , it was major downgrade in my opinion, bang performance has been so disappointing whole year

#3

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all dumb takes

#5

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We'll be waiting

#6

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bro you might be an idiot bang is more of what you would call a traditional smokes player as opposed to a hyper aggressive pseudo duelist. Tenz also fulfilled a completely different role while on SEN as a true flex player. Tenz wasn't an anchor he was a play maker. They both do different things very well and to call it a major, major downgrade in your own words is just bizarre.

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I agree that they perform different roles so they aren't really comparable but with just comparing their Omen play, TenZ does everything that Bang does better and does other things that Bang doesn't. I was definitely exaggerating with saying that its a major, major downgrade but its a pretty heavy downgrade with just comparing their roles when both were on controller. TenZ doesn't anchor all the time but when he does he's really good at it (examples are 4k on Sunset vs NRG during kickoff and 3k on Haven vs TH in champs) whereas I've seen Bang miss critical kills that he should be getting (anchoring sites or not). I think that if Bang can get in form for Champions then they have a great chance to get top 4 but he's lost so many important fights during this year that I'm not confident in his ability to.

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They need the Demon1 Omen

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dimmed

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'25 johnqt might be more than slight downgrade

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We just forgetting about stage 1 bang??
https://www.vlr.gg/475900/g2-esports-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2025-americas-stage-1-ubsf
Only game sentinels won a full powered G2

Recency bias is too powerful in the Sen community, it feels like the team default too much to retaking, they amount of times I have seen bang just back off in the last games instead of his usual hard anchoring hasn't been good, it is his whole persona being able to solo hold and delay a site.

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OOOOO 1.15 RATING +7 7:5 FK/FD OOOOOO OMG WHAT A PERFORMANCE

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JesusisLord

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You were not watching the games, stats don't tell you everything.

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BabyWizard

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Sure. Still, TenZ had better games and clears b0ng

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100%

#15

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If you think n4rrate in any form better than sacy then you must be joking, in the most critical moments you could aways count on sacy to pull through for sen. He had a big impact on the team purely through his experience. N4rrate on the other hand cannot be counted on during the most crucial moments. At the moment he has the worst mental on the team and that has been well documented by sentinels.

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JesusisLord

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"Worst mental" source: trust me bro

#19

dex_dmitri

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Clearly you have not watched any of sentinels games, did we forget bangkok videos of n4rrate ? Multiple instances of zellsis having to babysit him throughout the year ? People see him fragging in inconsequential games and think he is the best. KC n4rrate and sen n4rrate are completely different.

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JesusisLord

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Shocking News just dropped, People can see criticism and Improve 😱😱😱😱😱😱, People can also actually change 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱, Ik right actually crazy and mental.

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uwukitten

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s0cy averaged -10 per game

#24

dimmed

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earlier in the year maybe, but right now N4rrate actually seems the most reliable on SEN in these critical moments

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Puia

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I do think that Sacy and N4RRATE's value is close but you cannot ALWAYS count on Sacy to pull through for Sen. He's insane at clutching but in terms of those 1v1's that he needs to win for Sen to win the round, he almost always loses them, N4RRATE on the other hand can win those 1v1's even if it's inconsistent at times. N4RRATE also has the ability to take over games even if we haven't seen it against the best of the best whereas Sacy cannot.

At the moment, Bang has the worst mental on the team, N4RRATE is probably the second person to tilt if something does go wrong but he's gotten better at that and that has been documented by Sen as well.

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Effluxi

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issues that sentinels has:

Yes

#26

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bang util and sacy tactical and mental impact are being severely underrated

#28

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people saying that tenz was not so much better than bang is crazy watching bang this year he has not impressed me at all in situations where they are at an disadvantage he never goes for a play and idk why but he has his hands off his keyboard so much and constantly wipes his hands and ive seen a lot of times where it has cost him and his team

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Sign Cryo to reunite with Zekk and move zellsis to 6th man. John back to full time senti. New coach with more creativity than Kap. Now double duelist lineup is scary with zekken/cryo and narrate initiating. Cryo can flex to double senti, john can flex to double controller, zekken can flex to double initiator. Not perfect but better synergy and potential map pool than this.