Alfajer MVP | VLR.gg

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Addammo

I absolutely love f0rsakeN and am so happy for PRX that they won, but I feel like not giving Alfa MVP after his performance pretty much just guarantees nobody will ever get it unless they win, my god he deserved it

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+28 in FK:FD in the event btw
which is equal to the peak Demon1 performance (one-time eventer). And FNC lost the finals. Imagine they won (not choking quite a few rounds)

most insane heist in Valorant history

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is it not +28?

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fk it is 28
someone told me it was 40 and i believed em

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lmao

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that's how life works?

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why can't we stop with this MVP MVP stuff. The MVP for this tournament had already been confirmed to be forsaken. And what ever bitching that we could ever done, wouldn't be able to change anything

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let them bitch about it, there's nothing to talk about till EWC starts

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Addammo

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bro it's a discussion, that's the whole point of this, I don't believe I asked for them to change it

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they should make 2 MVPs: MVP of the tournament + MVP of the grand final

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I'd still give both to Alfa, but as you can tell by my flair I'm probably a bit biased, that's why I wanted to know what other people thought

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I dont think anyone would dislike it. I guess you would have to keep the top 4 or top 6 in the masters/champs till the end, since the overall MVP might end up on one of the teams that didnt make the final

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MVP of the tourney definitely goes to alfa, mvp of the finals goes to forsaken for sure

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at this point, it's already been concluded in another thread (I'm agreeing to the point that, yeah, Alfajer should have got the MVP award, if it's based on his performance).
But what's bothering me is the amount of the same thread, with the same of conclusion being added, just to fuel more bait and stupid arguments

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I don't live on here, I never saw any other threads before making it. Not trying to start arguments, if people genuinely believe Alfa wasn't MVP that's totally fine, as I say I love f0rsakeN

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good then. Have a great day

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I remember when s1mple lost 2-3 to Faze Clan at IEM Cologne with Twistzz having an all time great impactful performance and making the winning play in the last fifth map

They gave the MVP to s1mple because stats and he only got hate because he robbed Twistzz. Its better to give the MVP to a player that actually won the event

I know ur sad Alfa had an amazing performance and was not the MVP, but it would be worse if a PRX player was not awarded

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Addammo

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I guess I can see it from both perspectives, I think Alfa would rather have the MVP than not, but if it's just to save him from getting hate, then sure

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i think we can confirm that alfa was prolly the whole tournament mvp, but the bracelet is meant to go to the mvp of the winning team, which you could argue to be forsaken cuz i think he had the highest ACS on the team

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you say that it's meant to go to the mvp of the winning team but it's not, that's just how it usually works out, since obviously they win. Bro had 99 kills and it wasn't even 5 maps, stuff like that is just simply insane

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how do you know its not meant to be like that? has there ever been a precedent set for the mvp bracelet to be given to anyone other than a person on the winning team? kangkang on edg, meteor on t1, and now forsaken on prx. all on the winning team.

so while its MVP is usually meant for the best player in the tourney, it seems riot has just silent locked the MVP spot for the winning team's players.

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Addammo

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I don't have any official specifications, no, I've just heard a lot of people in the scene have mentioned that they can be given to the losing team, even Alfa during the press conference says he just learnt that they could do that

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i mean if they told alfa that then maybe. still feels like they've just soft locked it to the winning team (kangkang and meteor both deffo were the outright mvps, but for this tourney would've been the perfect spot to give the MVP spot to someone who didn't win for once, thats why i feel like they've most likely just soft locked it)

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Addammo

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yeah I agree that was my thoughts with the initial post, I think that this case pretty much confirms that it will always go to the winning team, but it is what it is

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Isn't that's how it has always been tho? I get it Alfa had a monstrous performance through out the tournament. The MVP has always been awarded to a player from the winning team.

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I’m a fnc hater but it’s genuinely insane alfa didn’t get it

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Addammo

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Honestly I think it's just easier for them to pick someone from the winning team, probably to avoid backlash

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If they really want to avoid backlash, they should just make it official that only a player from the winning team can win mvp

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Ronyko23

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Nope winner deserves it.. You don't want players to play for stats..

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Addammo

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do you genuinely believe Alfa or anyone else would play for stats in the grand finals...

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Nope but its to avoid players like verno..

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NekoSugarGirls17

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Most "Valuable" Player. Getting 99 kills or even 200 kills doesn't have any value if you lost.

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Addammo

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I think we just differ on what valuable means, if a player went 3-20 and was on the team that won vs a person dropping 30, I would still argue the person doing so much better is more valuable, despite losing. Valuable just means what they're worth, and most people would rather have the person performing better

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I know it's just an example but f0rsaken didn't go 3-20 while alfa was on 30-x. That's a bad example.
If you are talking about "worth", you should take note that f0rsaken performed great and won while IGLing.
I'll say it one more time, your stats doesn't worth anything when you lose.
You can say anything you want but losers are losers and don't deserve an award for losing.

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The example is not to pretend Alfa played insanely better than f0rsakeN, it's to prove that the meaning of value is not purely based on winning or losing. If it was a single player game then sure, the MVP would obviously be the winner, but it's not; someone can do better on a team that loses than other people on the winning team. I would absolutely award someone for how well they did and the effort they put in, I think looking at it so black and white as someone is more valuable just because they were on a team that won instead of how well they actually did is not true

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why would we ever give an mvp to a loser