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Eh I didnt lose much so Im not that mad , but still I thought sen would be able at least beat an ascension team

I can believe I bet money on this team wining. I thought these guys were the chinese merchants. The only thing these guys are is fucking trash

Tenz and Sacy Gets a Blank Cheque. Thats it , Thanks for coming to my Ted talk

https://www.vlr.gg/post/5484716/goat-of-valorant, I answered that in another (thread?, post?) need to hit the sack or I would have chatted around a bit more

I removed lock in to have a fair argument (Which is stupid considering everyone showed up with their A game literally the best teams from every region came to play )

He won 1 champs and got top 3 with loud now I wont take loud as some random team thats not going to happen. But he did get top 3 with leviathan in champs and yes based on this performance its a valid take that aspas improves teams that hes in but the sample size is small , he only made 1 masters appearance with loud in rekjavik and none after that. You have very little to show for that statement

Wait three? I though he had berlin and tokyo whats the third one?

Thats...Actually a very good take and a sensible one too

okay then how would we measure it then. standings? on how far could aspas go in the internationals compared to chronicle? like the arguement he played in superteam vs A guy that a raised a team should be backed by something tangible no? what use are stats and standings if you dont win anything at the end of the day?

Honestly speaking? , I dont even know how ridiculous that is , I only watched a little football so Ill take you're word for it.

Dude I dont think half of vlr knows this guy, A player who is well known and consistently brought in new players into the game and also have like "a voice" that would be heard would be cultural impact for me and for me personally that guy is tenz

I dont get it like loud was a raid boss to me that entire roster was literally best of brazil so how can we say aspas has not played with the best , when he played in loud like all the players on that team was built different

I think we all tried to play like tenz once no? thats cultural impact if I ever seen one

I think chronicle has all the 3 in most games I watched him so Im not going to judge based on a single game . as for champs trophies I think he has 2 masters trophies does that beat aspas's champs trophy? (I want to also include lock in even though most people consider it mickey mouse which is ridiculous considering most teams that showed were the best at that time)

As he should be my secret goat

I can see what youre trying to get at but how do we decide what kind of cultural impact a player had on the game , The community ? we can be too biased in that regard the way someone changed we saw and play the game? that would be tenz then no?

I guess I would cuz My metrics would be : Club Trophies+ UCLS+ Ballon D'or + Impact they had on their national team during their career. My only rule is that they have to be a favoured starter for the manager, unless said player is injured or suspended he should be playing almost all games

The riot officiated ones only for arguements sake

Based on what metrics though? I dont really care abt the player. why should aspas be in the discussion matters more to me than anything else and thats what I am trying to figure out

I get what you are saying but its easier to talk about football due players being awarded the Ballon d'or every year (I think) if we considered that + the impact they have on their respective national team. Its one of the reasons why messi is the goat of football no?

Both cause all the players we are discussing have been there from the start

IF* and yes he would be the greats of all time but again what were we looking at here trophies or stats , or consistent stats + Trophies?

I mean if he has the most trophies, Internationally and regionally then yes hes my goat

I dont watch basketball so my ball knowlege is very low. I watch football though

I dont get it . When people say "X player is the goat of valorant" what are they looking for: stats? , most mvps? or perhaps flashy rounds?. For me personally it would be the player that has the most trophies (Regional + International) with international carrying more weight of course. Because it seems like the most logical thing. The guy who consistently beat everyone always is the Goat.

PS: I just want to understand what yall think, I actually dont know who has the most trophies so far

Isnt the guy with the most silverware the goat? Like discussion ended there no? . Most Trophies (Regional and International) and putting up consistent performance is goat status its chronicle now maybe later it could be someone else. I dont understand what exactly are we looking for when we say "The goat of Valorant" if it is not the player with most trophies?.

Then tell aspas to join a super team

THE MESSI OF VALORANT

Play other duelist agents , try out raze yoru or phnx. Youre worst map is sunset and no one really plays jett there , and also try to aim for the head its vital that you make a habit of this now. everything else seems good enough , just play and youll get out of gold

well its a good thing I like watching ass

you know who it is, the boy who fell.

Great Day to see my king alfajer shit on Fraudpas

Just did and got a huge bag

Based Woohoojin Enjoyer

Darker than Black , Youre Romantic comedy snafu , Noragami, Gods blessing on this wonderful world

Hmm well then you could try out dragons dogma 2 , Hades is a roguelike but it fits youre description, Oblivion has a remaster that you could try out , Nioh 2 , Lords of the fallen , beserker khazan are some games that I think of.

well you could always try out devil may cry 5 they have an assortment of different weapons and different skills for each of them , the combat is pretty fun too

Why am I getting downfragged ?? . I just want to help out 🥀🥀😞

Path of Exile or any ARPG if you dig that. Also the dark souls trilogy and bloodborne if you have a ps. bloodborne is so good

Was A big FNC league fan so when they started their Valorant team I naturally supported them but i was a big fan of their lock in roster hope my goat leo comes back

just stop with the rage baits man, you aint even doing it correctly

low quality rage bait

Bro changed his flag I cant

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wdym lowk , let bro inhale the cope it was a good match anyway ggs to u

0/10 try harder bro

Classic Banger

bro needs work on those op shots otherwise we all good

no they arent sybau