CS does have a different ecosystem. Just like pretty much any other esport from a different developer.
However, what makes an S tier event has remained the same for other games aswell, regardless of the ecosystem.
Just being hosted or part of the main circuit isn't mandatory for the levels of events.
I was going by what any google search of "what makes an esports event S tier"
Most reports came up with what I said, including liquipedias definition of S tier event. Especially considering liquipedia is the primary source for labelling events as S tier, or Tier1 in esports, aswell as the primary source for overall esports esports information online.
hltv doesn't have any threads on it from what I could find, but on the CS subreddit, it seems to be based on the teams participating, size of the event, and money. It's why some majors are considered
League doesn't have S/A/B tier events, is similar to val, where EWC is the only other event that is non-riot hosted. However even liquipedia considers it an S tier event due to the level of competition.
Shitty formatting was the only issue with kickoff.
Kickoff also gave circuit points and was a qual event for masters. It fits every theoretical bill for an S tier. I dont see it as an S tier, but on paper it counts as one.
Just like cs fans say, some majors aren't S tier because of the lack of competition, however the general rule is that the event itself, is due to level of competition and scale of the event. PGL Astana for example.
However like you said, CS is a different ecosystem. It doesn't have a version of "worlds/champions", and only has majors. However each major has it's own prestige behind it.
Also by your definition kickoff and stages are S tier. Hosted events, offline, by riot, part of the vct tour?
I'm also not saying liquipedia is the definitive answer for every event. I'm saying their rules on their rankings is the general consensus of what makes an S tier. They also said lockin is S tier, and I honestly believe that was A at most. They're not 100% right with some tournament tiers, but it's usually based on who's attending. you're seeing the best of the best, with S tier teams facing against each other, on a grand stage. It's not the best way we have to describe metrics, but it's the only loose definition that most esport scenes go by.
You're just changing your view of S tier events. first it has to the be hosted by the dev/publishers, and now it has to define someones legacy.
Just because an event doesn't live up to your definition of what constitutes S tier, doesn't mean it's not counted as one by the majority.
I also never said this even is an S tier. The production of it has been ass during the qual stage. Streams missing, low production value, etc.
If S tier events are the ones that defined a winners legacy, then the Dreamhack Shroud won is S tier. It's the only event he ever won, and that defined his CS legacy.
Like I understand what you're saying, but it's just not what the general consensus is.
The general consensus is that what makes an S tier event is the level of competition, the prize pool, and the scale of the event itself.
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