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JOHNQT >>> valyn
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johnqt == valyn idk what we smoking if anything for the majority of their careers its been johnqt << valyn
SavageBeastfly2 [#5]johnqt == valyn idk what we smoking if anything for the majority of their careers its been johnqt << valyn
no? john has a trophy
won the first event of his career
lol its not even a competition
notepicfailboi [#6]My fucking igl. He shoots so well too
Emea clears unlucky tho
1243 [#7]no? john has a trophy
won the first event of his career
lol its not even a competition
in terms of h2h, john got 1 win over valyn in tier 2, then valyn got him twice in ascension. moving to t1 sen has lost to g2 4 times before this win, i do agree these guys are very close to each other in mechanics and igl'ing but to say john clears valyn is just disingenuous
(edit: fuck i got baited didn't i)
SavageBeastfly2 [#10]in terms of h2h, john got 1 win over valyn in tier 2, then valyn got him twice in ascension. moving to t1 sen has lost to g2 4 times before this win, i do agree these guys are very close to each other in mechanics and igl'ing but to say john clears valyn is just disingenuous
(edit: fuck i got baited didn't i)
who got the trophy buddy? thats what i thought
Warlordwibz [#12]trophy diff too
Higher peak, but overall G2 has been more consistently better than Sen since JohnQT has joined them
AltonBu02 [#13]Higher peak, but overall G2 has been more consistently better than Sen since JohnQT has joined them
G2 can be consistently better anytime they want, 1 game determine international qualification/trophy lifting match.
Warlordwibz [#14]G2 can be consistently better anytime they want, 1 game determine international qualification/trophy lifting match.
Sure, but it's better to look at a teams overall performance when you wanna judge an individuals impact to a team's success. Many people's argument for JohnQT > Valyn is that JohnQT got 1 trophy, but I'm saying that just looking at purely trophies instead of overall standings in each tournament is extremely stupid and discredits the several other times G2 has seen success. G2 has gotten so many high placings with Valyn as a crucial piece that it's actually crazy. For the majority of their careers Valyn > JohnQT, but rn I would place them to be equal.
AltonBu02 [#15]Sure, but it's better to look at a teams overall performance when you wanna judge an individuals impact to a team's success. Many people's argument for JohnQT > Valyn is that JohnQT got 1 trophy, but I'm saying that just looking at purely trophies instead of overall standings in each tournament is extremely stupid and discredits the several other times G2 has seen success. G2 has gotten so many high placings with Valyn as a crucial piece that it's actually crazy. For the majority of their careers Valyn > JohnQT, but rn I would place them to be equal.
what do you mean equal ? JONQT is top 5 this group stage while IGLing, Valyn is damn good but its proven that JOHNQT 's consistency is more solid fam
1243 [#11]who got the trophy buddy? thats what i thought
in terms of raw aim though, you do have to give it to valyn. i would say that the attack side callings are both incredible and that johnqt has a bit of an edge when it comes to defence. so i think they would be about even, not including like trophies and stuff.
AltonBu02 [#13]Higher peak, but overall G2 has been more consistently better than Sen since JohnQT has joined them
consistent until they reach that grandfinal
askrial [#17]in terms of raw aim though, you do have to give it to valyn. i would say that the attack side callings are both incredible and that johnqt has a bit of an edge when it comes to defence. so i think they would be about even, not including like trophies and stuff.
theyre both good, i just hope NA wins. sen first ofcourse.
noSananoLife [#19]MENA IGL'S FARMING IN NA
postponed matches got u tweaking 💔
No worries my guy next match it gonna settle down on lowers with anti strats
kuruk [#23]the last time johnqt beat a valyn lead team was vcl msi of 2023
The last time johnqt beat a valyn lead team was April 26 2025
Toph_ [#24]The last time johnqt beat a valyn lead team was April 26 2025
intentionally misunderstanding the post to upfrag farm
kuruk [#25]intentionally misunderstanding the post to upfrag farm
No I’m just stating a fact. That was last time John beat Valyn. Not like team wins inherently indicate a better igl… ex: any prx win in history…
envyz [#18]consistent until they reach that grandfinal
still not getting my point but its fine
MIKA-IL [#16]what do you mean equal ? JONQT is top 5 this group stage while IGLing, Valyn is damn good but its proven that JOHNQT 's consistency is more solid fam
i don't know about consistency, but yeah this is JohnQT's best split by far damn. I would say he's actually the most impactful player on Sen rn. Rn Johnqt > Valyn I agree.
Toph_ [#26]No I’m just stating a fact. That was last time John beat Valyn. Not like team wins inherently indicate a better igl… ex: any prx win in history…
prx won by just being better raw aimers until that wasnt a viable strat
if you think tgrd v m80/ghost or any g2 v sen match was an aim diff you just didnt watch the games
widepeepofrosty [#21]postponed matches got u tweaking 💔
Nah MENA is Middle East North Africa, Valyn is syrian and QT is Moroccan, and yes I am tweaking hard NGL because of the postponed matches
kuruk [#29]prx won by just being better raw aimers until that wasnt a viable strat
if you think tgrd v m80/ghost or any g2 v sen match was an aim diff you just didnt watch the games
If you think they were a igl diff you didn’t watch the games… my point is a result shouldn’t determine a individual comparison… shouldn’t be a difficult concept to wrap your head around…
noSananoLife [#30]Nah MENA is Middle East North Africa, Valyn is syrian and QT is Moroccan, and yes I am tweaking hard NGL because of the postponed matches
u right, im tweaking hard too 😵💫
John got M80 to a final then he left for SEN and won a trophy within 6 months. Ever since he joined, SEN has never missed an event except for Shanghai.
Put John on g2 and he will win them a trophy.
v0lyn has been with the same dudes and havent won a single international. Put him on SEN or another team and see how much of a fraud he is. He just relies on trent and jawg.
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