#1 Gen.G
#2 EDG
#3 Sentinels
#4 TH
#5 LEV
neuroniumtwistanium [#5]1# Gen.G
2# TH
3# Sen
4# EDG
5# G2/LEV (saying this because G2 were great at masters, meh at champs, while it was the opposite for LEV)Thoughts?
ive been a TH fan since Benjy joined and I don't think they are above EDG or SEN when EDG won champs and Sen won Madrid and got top 4 at Champs
Pixalfv [#8]LEV won Americas and got 3rd at Champs
G2 got second twice in Americas and did good at masters and made playoffs of champs overrall more consistent imo
darklord69 [#10]if we're talking purely in terms of competitive achievements heretics was the best simply by average placement
but they didn't win an event
darklord69 [#10]if we're talking purely in terms of competitive achievements heretics was the best simply by average placement
Heretics was the best at handing out titles for free. Trash Team.
neuroniumtwistanium [#5]1# Gen.G
2# TH
3# Sen
4# EDG
5# G2/LEV (saying this because G2 were great at masters, meh at champs, while it was the opposite for LEV)Thoughts?
unless you rate consistency i would put th lower and switch sen and edg. i would put lev over g2 despite their disappointment in shanghai because they recovered and made third in champs whereas g2 fell short
neuroniumtwistanium [#5]1# Gen.G
2# TH
3# Sen
4# EDG
5# G2/LEV (saying this because G2 were great at masters, meh at champs, while it was the opposite for LEV)Thoughts?
G0NG 10th in champs lul
Azzelastia [#12]Heretics was the best at handing out titles for free. Trash Team.
heretics was handing out trophies while bottom1 was dragging his team into 9th place regionally
Azzelastia [#2]Why is Trash Heretics on the list? Biggest frauds of all time.
America gave edg and geng upper finals on even matchup . Seems like they’re the bigger frauds 🦶🦶🦶🦶🦶
Azzelastia [#12]Heretics was the best at handing out titles for free. Trash Team.
Who gave upper finals?
mustafais [#19]America gave edg and geng upper finals on even matchup . Seems like they’re the bigger frauds 🦶🦶🦶🦶🦶
Can’t wait for americas to finish 7-8 at masters Bangkok
mustafais [#21]Can’t wait for americas to finish 7-8 at masters Bangkok
That's fraudmea
Haven't won anything in over a year. 😹😹😹😹
Azzelastia [#22]That's fraudmea
Haven't won anything in over a year. 😹😹😹😹
America’s will be 3-4 as always. Sen won a Mickey Mouse tournament last year
mustafais [#23]America’s will be 3-4 as always. Sen won a Mickey Mouse tournament last year
Fraudmea 0 titles 😹😹😹😹
Donating titles to apac and china.
Sen beat GenG when it mattered.
Trash Heretics -> free title to GenG
why is geng first? i mean they literally lost their best player meteor(for those who say its texture you are dumb, i remember the match from fpx vs geng at shanghai on ascent where meteor quite literally single handedly saved geng that match during an eco round where he has a sheriff and was one tapping like crazy). Nrg also beat them in SOOP, you might argue its only off season but that its what everyone said about sentinels last year during the exact same tournament and we all how that turned out. Also, im a sen fan but there is no way sen is 3rd on this list 4th or 5th is a maybe. and whats up with lev? they definitely do not look good and have tons of issues. one of the main problems is how itopata put d1 on raze when d1 clearly showed that he cant play raze last year on nrg.
nrg shud be on top 3 minimum and t1 shud be top 5
Cryptic88 [#25]why is geng first? i mean they literally lost their best player meteor(for those who say its texture you are dumb, i remember the match from fpx vs geng at shanghai on ascent where meteor quite literally single handedly saved geng that match during an eco round where he has a sheriff and was one tapping like crazy). Nrg also beat them in SOOP, you might argue its only off season but that its what everyone said about sentinels last year during the exact same tournament and we all how that turned out. Also, im a sen fan but there is no way sen is 3rd on this list 4th or 5th is a maybe. and whats up with lev? they definitely do not look good and have tons of issues. one of the main problems is how itopata put d1 on raze when d1 clearly showed that he cant play raze last year on nrg.
nrg shud be on top 3 minimum and t1 shud be top 5
It's for 2024.
Cryptic88 [#25]why is geng first? i mean they literally lost their best player meteor(for those who say its texture you are dumb, i remember the match from fpx vs geng at shanghai on ascent where meteor quite literally single handedly saved geng that match during an eco round where he has a sheriff and was one tapping like crazy). Nrg also beat them in SOOP, you might argue its only off season but that its what everyone said about sentinels last year during the exact same tournament and we all how that turned out. Also, im a sen fan but there is no way sen is 3rd on this list 4th or 5th is a maybe. and whats up with lev? they definitely do not look good and have tons of issues. one of the main problems is how itopata put d1 on raze when d1 clearly showed that he cant play raze last year on nrg.
nrg shud be on top 3 minimum and t1 shud be top 5
Top 5 teams of 2024
Azzelastia [#30]0/8
Trash Heretics didn't win anything.
lmao i have never seen anyone hate on heretics more than you
Cryptic88 [#32]lmao i have never seen anyone hate on heretics more than you
mate literally gets a hate boner when heretics is mentioned in a Top list .
Cryptic88 [#32]lmao i have never seen anyone hate on heretics more than you
Trash Heretics fans are worse than Fraudnatic fans.
Cryptic88 [#32]lmao i have never seen anyone hate on heretics more than you
mate literally gets a hate boner when heretics is mentioned in a Top list .
Azzelastia [#34]Trash Heretics fans are worse than Fraudnatic fans.
since when lmao i have never seen a delusional heretics fan make a post on vlr about heretics
mustafais [#23]America’s will be 3-4 as always. Sen won a Mickey Mouse tournament last year
you guys are both morons. Americas have won at least one event every single year. Arguing that Americas are not Top 2 regions OAT is a joke. Also, Heretics are obviously in the top 4 teams of last year, braindead to argue otherwise. two grand finals appearances at internationals. Maybe you should both log off👍
ArterieX [#39]GENG is TOP 1????? after they drop meteor u should be high cannabis RN
I'm gonna hold your hand as i say this...
ArterieX [#39]GENG is TOP 1????? after they drop meteor u should be high cannabis RN
whos gonna tell him
ok i will
bro read the fucking post before u comment
Cryptic88 [#25]why is geng first? i mean they literally lost their best player meteor(for those who say its texture you are dumb, i remember the match from fpx vs geng at shanghai on ascent where meteor quite literally single handedly saved geng that match during an eco round where he has a sheriff and was one tapping like crazy). Nrg also beat them in SOOP, you might argue its only off season but that its what everyone said about sentinels last year during the exact same tournament and we all how that turned out. Also, im a sen fan but there is no way sen is 3rd on this list 4th or 5th is a maybe. and whats up with lev? they definitely do not look good and have tons of issues. one of the main problems is how itopata put d1 on raze when d1 clearly showed that he cant play raze last year on nrg.
nrg shud be on top 3 minimum and t1 shud be top 5
just put the fries in the bag bro
isumorw [#38]how is geng top 1 this list is so goofy what take your schizo pills pls
how are they not
Hot Take:
FPX deserves to be in this conversation:
Only lost to EDG in Bo5's domestically (and only lost other games after they were guaranteed to Champs)
At Madrid lost to 2 of the top 4 teams from Kickoffs in close games after a terrible travel experience.
Only lost to the 2 finalists at Shanghai
Lost to 2 of the top 4 teams at Champs in the Group of Death
St0rm1820 [#46]Hot Take:
FPX deserves to be in this conversation:
Only lost to EDG in Bo5's domestically (and only lost other games after they were guaranteed to Champs)
At Madrid lost to 2 of the top 4 teams from Kickoffs in close games after a terrible travel experience.
Only lost to the 2 finalists at Shanghai
Lost to 2 of the top 4 teams at Champs in the Group of Death
Thats not a hot take thats just objectively wrong lol
isumorw [#38]how is geng top 1 this list is so goofy what take your schizo pills pls
they’ve made 5 finals in the year including two internationals and won three of them including shanghai
Hitscan [#50]#1 NRG
#2 FNATIC
#3 EG
rest don't matter
two teams that didn't make a single international lmaooo
Pixalfv [#51]two teams that didn't make a single international lmaooo
NRG already won two trophies buddy
Hitscan [#50]#1 NRG
#2 FNATIC
#3 EG
rest don't matter
we're talking about 2024 here dawg
but for 2025 yeah i agree
#BRINGTHENRG #FNCWIN #LIVEEVIL
mustafais [#23]America’s will be 3-4 as always. Sen won a Mickey Mouse tournament last year
bro went from 7-8 to 3-4 pick a number bozo
honestly, id say:
1) Gen G - won kickoff, 2nd place madrid, 2nd place stage 1, won shanghai, won stage 2, grouped at champs. in total 1 bad overall event
2) TH - 2nd place kickoff, grouped madrid, 2nd place stage 1, 2nd place shanghai, 3rd place stage 2, 2nd place champs. in total didnt win anything bbut considering they had 3 rosters they had a consistently very good year all things considered
3) EDG - won kickoff, grouped madrid, won stage 1, insta elimmed shanghai, won stage 2, won champs. in total very dominant regional presence (although it was in china) and 1 good international
4) Sen - won kickoff, won madrid, bombed out stage 1, struggled stage 2, 4th place champs. started the year on fire, middle of the year kicked them hard in the ass, recovered at the end.
5) either G2, Lev, or FNC. G2 started bad, but since getting icy they only got better and better until champs where they barely escaped groups. Lev were pretty good year round, but really showed up at the end of the year during stage 2 and champs, but were never super amazing. FNC were regionally dominant throughout the year, although not to the level of edg at any time, but they bombed out shanghai, and considering the leo situation they bounced back pretty well for the rest of the year, especially stage 2
Two_Percent [#57]honestly, id say:
1) Gen G - won kickoff, 2nd place madrid, 2nd place stage 1, won shanghai, won stage 2, grouped at champs. in total 1 bad overall event
2) TH - 2nd place kickoff, grouped madrid, 2nd place stage 1, 2nd place shanghai, 3rd place stage 2, 2nd place champs. in total didnt win anything bbut considering they had 3 rosters they had a consistently very good year all things considered
3) EDG - won kickoff, grouped madrid, won stage 1, insta elimmed shanghai, won stage 2, won champs. in total very dominant regional presence (although it was in china) and 1 good international
4) Sen - won kickoff, won madrid, bombed out stage 1, struggled stage 2, 4th place champs. started the year on fire, middle of the year kicked them hard in the ass, recovered at the end.
5) either G2, Lev, or FNC. G2 started bad, but since getting icy they only got better and better until champs where they barely escaped groups. Lev were pretty good year round, but really showed up at the end of the year during stage 2 and champs, but were never super amazing. FNC were regionally dominant throughout the year, although not to the level of edg at any time, but they bombed out shanghai, and considering the leo situation they bounced back pretty well for the rest of the year, especially stage 2
good list
serot [#56]bro went from 7-8 to 3-4 pick a number bozo
yall are getting 7/8 at bangkok and 3/4 curse for eternity
mustafais [#60]yall are getting 7/8 at bangkok and 3/4 curse for eternity
And TropHyless will stay trophyless lol
St0rm1820 [#46]Hot Take:
FPX deserves to be in this conversation:
Only lost to EDG in Bo5's domestically (and only lost other games after they were guaranteed to Champs)
At Madrid lost to 2 of the top 4 teams from Kickoffs in close games after a terrible travel experience.
Only lost to the 2 finalists at Shanghai
Lost to 2 of the top 4 teams at Champs in the Group of Death
chinese regionals don't count
Two_Percent [#57]honestly, id say:
1) Gen G - won kickoff, 2nd place madrid, 2nd place stage 1, won shanghai, won stage 2, grouped at champs. in total 1 bad overall event
2) TH - 2nd place kickoff, grouped madrid, 2nd place stage 1, 2nd place shanghai, 3rd place stage 2, 2nd place champs. in total didnt win anything bbut considering they had 3 rosters they had a consistently very good year all things considered
3) EDG - won kickoff, grouped madrid, won stage 1, insta elimmed shanghai, won stage 2, won champs. in total very dominant regional presence (although it was in china) and 1 good international
4) Sen - won kickoff, won madrid, bombed out stage 1, struggled stage 2, 4th place champs. started the year on fire, middle of the year kicked them hard in the ass, recovered at the end.
5) either G2, Lev, or FNC. G2 started bad, but since getting icy they only got better and better until champs where they barely escaped groups. Lev were pretty good year round, but really showed up at the end of the year during stage 2 and champs, but were never super amazing. FNC were regionally dominant throughout the year, although not to the level of edg at any time, but they bombed out shanghai, and considering the leo situation they bounced back pretty well for the rest of the year, especially stage 2
lol we got the same list
ArterieX [#39]GENG is TOP 1????? after they drop meteor u should be high cannabis RN
indian can't read
catNmouse [#49]they’ve made 5 finals in the year including two internationals and won three of them including shanghai
you sayin as if its the same roster wtf they downgraded so hard bro
Pixalfv [#67]T1 and Vitality didn't even do anything all year
The team was assembled in 2024, you didn't talk about the season
Huuuuugo [#74]The team was assembled in 2024, you didn't talk about the season
he was clearly referring to the 2024 season, no need for technicalities
isumorw [#73]you sayin as if its the same roster wtf they downgraded so hard bro
this is a 2024 list you illiterate moron
catNmouse [#75]fnatic???
as a fnatic glazer idk if we deserve top 5 over the whole year
Leo was sick for kickoff and shanghai but our performance was ehh even after considering that
Making 5-6th at Champs with a sub was very cool but idk if it makes up for the rest of the year
Aayan [#78]as a fnatic glazer idk if we deserve top 5 over the whole year
Leo was sick for kickoff and shanghai but our performance was ehh even after considering that
Making 5-6th at Champs with a sub was very cool but idk if it makes up for the rest of the year
i mean for a team like fnatic with that core, you can say they didn’t live up to their expectations
catNmouse [#80]i mean for a team like fnatic with that core, you can say they didn’t live up to their expectations
oh wait I thought your post was asking about fnatic not being on the list in general, I only just saw that you were replying to someone (my bad lol), yeah I agree with you they're not top 5, I misunderstood your comment