My top 20 right now

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Howard

Sentinels
Vision Strikers
100 Thieves
Gambit
Envy
Acend
G2
Vivo Keyd
XSET
SuperMassive Blaze
Nuturn
Team Liquid
Vodafone Giants
Cloud9 Blue
Fnatic
F4Q
Rise
TSM
Team BDS
TNL Esports

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Ooooo interesting...

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matarab16

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#TSMFTW

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I don't know if I can see G2, Vivo Keyd and XSET above SMB.

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Howard

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If SMB convincingly stomp PRX I'll agree and change my rankings. But for now it seems like they were just on a hot streak during qualifiers.

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Yeah hot streak against G2 and Acend, definitely just lucky.

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Howard

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Well yeah but then they got stomped by Gambit and they just got stomped by Acend.

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Hot streaks =/= lucky

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gambit better than 100t tbh

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Howard

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Probably but I'm curious how they perform against Havan Liberty. If it's a bigger stomp than 100T's match was, I'll believe it for sure

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PRX gonna beat SMB 2-0

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Howard

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I do think there's more upset potential there than people realize but I don't think PRX win. Maybe they take a map and make another one close though.

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nah SMB wil win 2-0 for sure

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Putting Envy above Acend and especially putting VK and XSET above SMB is just delusional tbf

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unknown_trash

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Acend and smb have been in shambles in this tournament so far so its only fair.

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BDS wtf? Which was the last EU game you watched?

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Howard

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Very very close losses both times they missed on EMEA finals qualification and the teams who beat them are much higher, so I think BDS can be at the very bottom of top 20

https://www.vlr.gg/24956/team-liquid-vs-team-bds-champions-tour-europe-stage-3-challengers-1-lr1

https://www.vlr.gg/28916/fnatic-vs-team-bds-champions-tour-europe-stage-3-challengers-2-lr2/?game=46427&tab=overview

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But you can’t put them over Guild, NaVi, Tenstar or some others. And not even close if you add other regions

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Keaton

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C9 should be below rise, SMB a bit low… and nuturn could be a tad lower

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Howard

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Rise will be much lower once ESIC report comes out KEKW

Nuturn will be insane with Hyeoni and they already looked good before

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Keaton

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They gonna be 40 with their kids playing when those Esic reports be coming out KEKW

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Fnatic > F4Q and Rise?? Fnatic its a meme right now

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Howard

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Fnatic still placed 2nd in the world at Iceland, they have the potential to get back to that level, Rise for example is nowhere near that

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Torogoro

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placed 2nd playing only post-plant meta, riot nerf post plant -> Fnatic lose every match

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Keaton

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I mean that’s like saying Cleveland Cavaliers have the potential to be a top team since they have won a Championship with Lebron years back… It may have happened but things changed, teams get worse and teams get better.

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Howard

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That's years back, this was ~3 months ago... if the Cavs won a championship in late May and played another one in early September of course they would be a top contender

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shyftnot

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It's about how fast the game changes. And the game changed significantly enough for them to be thrown out of top 6 in EU. not even EMEA.

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Keaton

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A month in valorant basically equals a year normal sports. The amount of change that happens within a month is still crazy compared to a year in a sport. Esports is a fast, and always changing view with some teams being completely changed within a month compared to normal sports changing in a year.

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Vivo Keyd isnt better than XSET imo they could be interchangeable

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Howard

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I probably agree but they looked really good against Envy and I rate LAN games a little higher

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Wavee

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f4q way below vivo keyd??? interesting

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I would for sure move Vision Strikers down for the time being although they were very impressive today. Its their first match against EMEA/NA and I'd like to see more of them before ranking them so highly.

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Swap Vivo Keyd with SMB

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did you just look at the rankings and make this because there is no way anyone would put Fnatic over FPX or Guild. dont get me wrong Fnatic are not bad , they are in the same level as TSM i would say. remove TNL and BDS and also nuturn should be below liquid since screams brother is joining. vivo keyd should between f4q and tsm. also i think 100t can be better than VS since most of VS's plays use up a lot of utilities and since 100t plays kayo that would be good against them. and also every member out aims VS i think

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Howard

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LOL you think FPX should be anywhere on this list, your entire opinion is irrelevant

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fisherman

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what is the point of ranking more than like top 8, it's way too abstract to try to matchup teams that have never played each other nor even made it to international competition

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shyftnot

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C9 Blue in top 20 is questionable.

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TSM don't deserve to be on this list

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pretty good list

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ChrisGG

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Nuturn is not even top 15 rn they lost their best players

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Revlo

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they lost lakia but picked up hyeoni

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BDS?