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why does everyone hate SEN?

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#1
Skoepdoep2

Why are they hating on a good org? in terms of just the org its been amazing. they treat their players well, dont randomaly collapse, they aren't a shit org like EG who just ditch a great team for their salaries.

I get SEN fans can be little shits but there's also those that just like SEN and act normal.

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siniota
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We love to see downfall of those who once prospered
EZ

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JustHunterM8
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Yea but it's just so overblown for so long it genuinely just looks pathetic when you see a diehard Sen hater.

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ABhi
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"treat their players well"

Lul

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Kinga
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poor pancada

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Nilonesia
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?

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EternalXera
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The bar is in hell 💀

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chsnvictr
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mfs act like they treat players bad

they replaced players with better ones, if you get replaced at work with someone better than you at your job nobody is gonna cry on twitter for you

pancada still gets paid too mf getting starting 5 money able to do wtv tf he wants

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ah yes, dropped shahzam despite promising him a spot and he found out through a george geddes tweet. this is truly peak professionalism

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chsnvictr
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he wasnt dropped, again unless you're living in a communist country this can happen to anyone, and nobody would care

its called his contract ran out, and SEN thought that zekken/pancada/sacy was better than shahz and dapr (dephh came along with that)

and being honest dephh was better than shahz atp even tho ayrin was the better caller between the two

sorry if reality is sad, but thats reality, when you sign contracts you read them, if you don't sign an extension you're not dropped and you def didnt find out on george geddes tweet, cuz he wasn't renewed, he knows this

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I'm not arguing over legality though, this is a matter of ethics. sure you can speak all you want about this is how it is in the "real world" but that doesn't change the fact that it's scummy and orgs should strive to be better

these are shahzam's own words on the matter:

SEN last told me they were working on a contract renewal and then I learned from the george geddes article while live on stream. It was embarrassing and not a nice way to find out for sure, and the clip went viral. Rob's damage control to the clip was to lie and say I was informed but there were 0 calls and 0 messages from SEN to me or my agent. They were always in their right to make the roster however they wanted even if that didn't include me, I just felt wronged to learn that way. The org is still filled with passionate people that do an amazing job and the current players are good people.
I wish he had owned up to poorly handling it and that it didn't go down like that but it's in the past now. It sucks that people think I had any reason to lie about it. I feel for pancada finding out like this but he's a great player and I'm sure we'll see him playing on a roster soon

it's fine if they found better players and decided to not renew the contract but they didn't even immediately inform him about it then lied to the public + this is ignoring all the drama over how he was "promised a spot" if he played with shroud (which is very stupid from both sides)

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The shaz thing wasn't as bad as what they did with dapr imo shaz was dropped early meanwhile dapr thought he had a spot till the end then rob told him he can be a sub if he wants ☠️

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I don't think Shazh, Pancada and Dapr were treated that badly.

it's shit that Shazh found out through a tweet but SEN probably didn't mean for him to find out like that. they probably wanted to tell him in person. So thats not even there fault, unless the CEO or a coach told this Geddes guy.

Pancada was just unlucky, Zellsis was a way better fit for the team and the performance of the team without Pancada was such an improvement that they would be dumb to put Pancada back into the team

Dapr stuff isnt something i really know much about so i can't say much about this.;

But again its very different from other ORGs, EG still threw away a winning team, other orgs do just as much dumb shit or keep players trapped for an entire season with insane buyouts.

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BraindeadKJmain
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CEO + Fanbase + old team with gigantic egoes

#5
Cromawarrior48
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1sen fans r trash they defend anything and everything even when they know they r wrong its the worst fanbase for a reason.
2dont compare sen to eg who have been in esports for more than 20 years and basically dont care anymore.
3 acegaymer

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empty117
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upvoted for acegamer reason

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kyro1
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i dislike sen because their fans lack critical thinking skills nothing against the org or players

#8
lelouch526
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WE HATE SEN FANS ONLY
THEY SEN IS THE BEST TEAM IN THE WORLD AND ANY OTHER TEAM IS SHIT
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A SEN FAN PRAISING OTHER TEAM?

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ALoKi007
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Whenever a team is in a bad phase there fan base becomes more and more toxic I think. They become so toxic that they start trash talking there own orgs. PRX is not an exception either. It is what it is

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Kinga
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remember monyet

#15
ALoKi007
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Exactly!

#11
sussybaka
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because they dont sign my goat wardell to the team. #SentinelsIsOverParty

#17
eitanio
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theyre fat

#18
bronzil_enjoyer
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flag flair

#19
eitanio
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fat flair leaf leaf leaf shivering

#21
bronzil_enjoyer
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thats g2 gozen u bum

#22
X20M2703
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JEALOUS DOGS🤣

#26
Existential_crisis
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Because sen fans are more dense than Lead.

#29
bladaaa
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I respect Sen players
but the fans man

#30
TM06Nick
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its the fans not the players, even though Zellsis is a very cringe white boi i do not hold it against them. solely the fans for me

#32
Chris_P_Bacon
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racist much, I can't tolerate the hate toward the whites wahhhhhh wahhhhh reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

#31
0fcuZ
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Cuz their fans are annoying

#34
yukky
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Flair talking

Stop talking from below, “super team”

#SENCITY

#35
0fcuZ
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Just proved my point. Thx

#33
_amBrian
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"SEN Fan was here"
"How could you tell?"
"Downvotes on any criticism"

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BulkyLettuce
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Probably bc they are the most popular team in valorant. More popularity = more people = more haters.

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