Why do people think Ethan is a bad igl?

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Asuna_Yuuki

Real question

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Pengu12

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baiters

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Average_NA_fan

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just watch the games lmao

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cocoluna

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All bc he hasn’t IGLD in the past

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StalwartTiger_35

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True, I don’t think anyone thinks he’s THAT bad

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TheAceGamer30

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There’s just better igls than him 😂

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cboomer

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When I'm judging an IGL i'm just a spectator, all I see is how well a team can stack a site on CT, how well a team can avoid a stack on T side

NRG have done both horribly since the departure of FNS, idk how good of a leader he is but his calling is noticeably shit

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TheAceGamer30

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NRG is saved by individual talent not cus of his calls

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Bro you don’t dominate games with bad calling

Why is NRG so dominant then

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TheAceGamer30

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Cus of individual skill not cus of his calling . Ethan isn’t doing anything good with his calls

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Asuna_Yuuki

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But aren’t crashies victor and marved “washed”?

And Ethan’s individual performance has noticably impacted by igling

And Demon1 is supposedly a fraud

How could NRG have good individual talent with all of these “bad” players

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cboomer

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you just have a shit coach, get it right

ethan is only a bad igl in the moment, you have to give him time to grow into being a good one

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TheAceGamer30

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What’s bro waffling about I’m complementing the players because they are good players, if they were washed NRG would been decimated by any team

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Asuna_Yuuki

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I can pull up the multiple threads of you calling victor crashies and marved washed

I can also pull up the threads of you calling demon1 a fraud

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TheAceGamer30

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sure , but I’ve also said multiple times I don’t hate the team I hate the fans like you

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Why do you hate me? ;(

I don’t hate you

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cboomer

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watch prx play and that disproves that first autistic shit you said

the second autistic shit, YOU HAVE PLAYED FURIA, a LOUD with 2 weeks no valorant, and C9 before they upgraded their roster

and you were out called every time except for by loud, but thats because pai saadhak didnt gaf ab u

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TheAceGamer30

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NRG fans celebrate beating those teams like they won champs actual clowns

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Ok bro when NRG beat LEV I want to see you acknowledge their skill

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TheAceGamer30

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If they beat lev it doesn’t prove anything since lev is literally aspas and friends maybe if you beat sen we might be talking 😂

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Why did SEN lose then

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cboomer

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you're right it was definitely because of kingg igling not 50 kills from aspas

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TheAceGamer30

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If aspas didn’t do that sen would’ve smoked lev , IT WAS CLOSE even with aspas life game

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TheAceGamer30

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Cus they had an off game , and they had like a week practice while lev had a month and week to prep for sen

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Asuna_Yuuki

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The players themselves said they played bad and LEV were better

No need to make excuses like that when the players themselves know it isn’t true

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cboomer

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no because LEV is a streaky team with just as shit of an IGL, out calling LEV would be like outcalling 2021 SEN

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Then what team do we have to beat for acknowledgement?

Only SEN?

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cboomer

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start small maybe qualify for a lan lmfao

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cboomer

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LOL

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LOL

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StutterSt3p

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How does PRX disprove that though? Like it's still wrong of course, but PRX does have calling in some form, it's just shared between a few players on their team.

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cboomer

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because prx usually does their best calling in the pre-round and have a super reactionary midrounding

I actually like their style but they aren't traditional and often hit sites with stacks on it, so they have generally bad calling, but they still dominate teams lol

PRX strengths are in executes and setups based on other teams mid-rounding, not actual midrounding

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StutterSt3p

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But if it works so much is it really bad calling then? I mean peak PRX actually chains utility together really well. To me, it's less bad calling and more just an unorthodox style.

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cboomer

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when I mean midrounding I mean map manipulation PRX really don’t even do that, they just have the best execs

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StutterSt3p

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First of all I think they do some of that, just not that much, and secondly why does that mean it's bad calling? If their execs work, what's wrong with making that the main focus of their play?

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cboomer

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nothings wrong with it, it works and i think it's better than them trying to be a good midrounding team wehn they aren't

however if you don't have davai mindfreak jinggg and forsaken that shit doesnt really work, and honestly, even benkai held them down a little because he always the source of stability on the team

even monyet kinda held them back and hes an amazing raze idc what people say.

If you don't have the goat entry with jinggg you aren't gonna be able to shit on people stacking 4 on every site

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StutterSt3p

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Maybe other teams can't replicate it, but I'm still not seeing why that was your counterpoint to, you can't dominate teams with bad calling. All you have to say is that individual talent can overcome team mistakes sometimes, and player quality can mask how bad a team really is.

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Asuna_Yuuki

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PRX have good calling
You can’t be a top team with bad calling

Still don’t dominate teams with bad calling

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cboomer

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prx have terrible mid rounding

they have an amazing coach to make up for that, something chet isn't

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Chet is the GOAT coach

Even Demon1 said one of the big things he like about NRG over EG is the coaching staff

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TheAceGamer30

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Billbilli

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espeon

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hes probably bad rn since hes never igled before, but i think once he gets more comfortable with calling he'll naturally get better

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Manaphy

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By then end of the year NRG will just run through everybody if they have to play with bad IGLing right now is what I'm understanding.

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yaiima0

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he isn't bad, just new to it

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Psion

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not bad but his igling doesn't move the needle

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TheAceGamer30

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Cus it’s trash