Why do people care so much about this matchup? SEN are not going to try, they basically have their Champs spot locked up with those 6 Championship Points. The only thing they are playing for is "clout".
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Psion [#3]i mean ppl talked abt this before any visa news broke lol
well even before the visa news SEN have basically no reason to try no reason to change anything and no reason to rlly even prac
FrenchToast [#5]of course they will try
a spot at shanghai and a third trophy would be nice
people are tweaking if they think sen aren’t trying
Why would they try?
They can just relax, and cook for Champs.
Champs > Masters
Psion [#9]but before the visa news broke it wasn't embarrassing if they lost....
SEN have shown basically everything they would have to recook most of their maps i dont think theres enough time for that
Zerphyr1 [#8]r u stupid?
WDYM there's no reason to practice?
There is no reason. SEN already have Champs locked up, they can just reuse their old strats and cook for Champs.
Zerphyr1 [#8]r u stupid?
WDYM there's no reason to practice?
thats was an exaggeration, i wanted to point out how this game doesnt rlly mean too much to them
doomvor [#11]There is no reason. SEN already have Champs locked up, they can just reuse their old strats and cook for Champs.
You realise there are 3 international tournaments and not 2 right?
Zerphyr1 [#13]You realise there are 3 international tournaments and not 2 right?
Who cares? For SEN to not make Champs it would take a miracle and SEN have to bomb.
Champs > Masters
Kei8 [#10]SEN have shown basically everything they would have to recook most of their maps i dont think theres enough time for that
that doesn't make it embarrassing to lose though
doomvor [#7]Why would they try?
They can just relax, and cook for Champs.
Champs > Masters
damn, maybe they should've just not qualified for madrid then, since nobody cares about masters events :(
surely dfm are just cooking for champs? smart.
michaelisupset [#15]why would they not try?
Because Champs > Masters, and they already have Champs basically locked up. They can simply relax, and cook for Champs without revealing anything.
Psion [#17]that doesn't make it embarrassing to lose though
i think it would be pretty emabaressing to lose to a team which has every strat basically just out there to antistrat
100T had all of Madrid to antistrat
Hynix [#18]damn, maybe they should've just not qualified for madrid then, since nobody cares about masters events :(
surely dfm are just cooking for champs? smart.
Sure, they can do that. But they need to actually qualify for Champs first, which SEN have already done.
doomvor [#14]Who cares? For SEN to not make Champs it would take a miracle and SEN have to bomb.
Champs > Masters
but they will still try for shanghai?? I rlly don't understand what you are on about.
Kei8 [#20]i think it would be pretty emabaressing to lose to a team which has every strat basically just out there to antistrat
100T had all of Madrid to antistrat
losing to a team that is top to bottom better than you is not embarrassing bro
Zerphyr1 [#22]but they will still try for shanghai?? I rlly don't understand what you are on about.
Why bother coming up with new Strats for Shanghai when they can focus on the big prize? Everybody else still needs to qualify and try, and they will use true strats that SEN can anti-strat. SEN don't need to care, Champs > Masters, and if it comes down to it, they will care more about winning Champs then winning Masters.
Psion [#23]losing to a team that is top to bottom better than you is not embarrassing bro
last time it was 2-1 with nothing to know about either side SEN as of rn objectively are at a big disadvantage
doomvor [#24]Why bother coming up with new Strats for Shanghai when they can focus on the big prize? Everybody else still needs to qualify and try, and they will use true strats that SEN can anti-strat. SEN don't need to care, Champs > Masters, and if it comes down to it, they will care more about winning Champs then winning Masters.
now ur definitely trolling, there is no way this is a real take
doomvor [#19]Because Champs > Masters, and they already have Champs basically locked up. They can simply relax, and cook for Champs without revealing anything.
that would be a bad idea actually!
Zerphyr1 [#26]now ur definitely trolling, there is no way this is a real take
Tell me, how am I wrong then?
Kei8 [#25]last time it was 2-1 with nothing to know about either side SEN as of rn objectively are at a big disadvantage
yes as of right now, as of when madrid ended they were not at a disadvantage lol they don't need to change their best maps we've seen teams try to antistrat their split and the only 1 that worked was GenG ONCE when "the mood was off" or something in SEN. (FNC used the same lotus strats for a whole year bro)
trying to argue losing to the best team in the world would be embarrassing is crazy
michaelisupset [#31]because why would a team not to try to win as much as possible?
Because winning Champs means more than winning Shanghai. It'd be better to focus on winning Champs first. Youi can have a much higher chance of winning Champs this way, why not?
Zerphyr1 [#26]now ur definitely trolling, there is no way this is a real take
johnqt did say theyre taking shanghai easy but he could be playing
WhoseTao [#33]johnqt did say theyre taking shanghai easy but he could be playing
taking shanghai easy still means practicing and trying, everything will probably be the same apart from a few hours a day were instead of practice its downtime.
doomvor [#32]Because winning Champs means more than winning Shanghai. It'd be better to focus on winning Champs first. Youi can have a much higher chance of winning Champs this way, why not?
Because you can't foresee the future and you don't know how the meta will evolve. You don't know what type of teams might make it and how they might play. Any strat you might be cooking now could go down the drain in 4 months time. All this hiding strats talk is mostly baseless and people put too much stock on that stuff.
LouBag [#35]Imagine being such a trash team and having such TRASH mentality that not trying to win would even be an option.
That’s not the way champions think, that’s the way scumbag trash who has never won anything think.
If you’re a champion you try 100% of the time. Period.
Not trying is for bitches.
I'm not saying they don't try, I'm saying they should not care for strats and save them for Champs.
gokersky [#36]Because you can't foresee the future and you don't know how the meta will evolve. You don't know what type of teams might make it and how they might play. Any strat you might be cooking now could go down the drain in 4 months time. All this hiding strats talk is mostly baseless and people put too much stock on that stuff.
Yeah, I'm saying to start anti-stratting once Shanghai starts. They can simply relax for now and make sure they don't get burned out.
And any proof for the "hiding strats talk is mostly baseless"?
doomvor [#28]Tell me, how am I wrong then?
Re-using old strats is basically saying "we are using strats that already exist so you can watch the film"
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